Obama - Biden - Your Opinion ?

[Don L]

IMOHO....Pound salt sunshine.In love,of course.
Kirk,I am sure you can read...you need a signature sir.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Kirk

A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.
The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

RIGHT ON KIRK , Damn liberals

[STAN]

Originally Posted by Beth n Rod

Yeah, every republican blames the democrats for the state of things when they had to clean up the mess during their (dem) terms. Sorry I don't buy it. Keep this in mind, I read the papers and seen the news, who do you think you're selling? Dems fixed things while the reps kept taking advantage of it.
Believe what you will, I see what is going on.


Rod!~

Read some of the newspapers from England, Sweden and match what is said in them to what is said in US news. you get the same story without the slants of writers that are on the left or right. They put the blame where it should be not all on the white house cause that is where the president is. Remember we have three parts to our government and each is responsible for themselves.

[Beth n Rod]

[Beth n Rod]

How Much Would You Pay in Taxes? | PARADE Magazine

Beth

[Mike Williamson]

Originally Posted by Beth n Rod

How Much Would You Pay in Taxes? | PARADE Magazine

Beth

Excellent!! I love McCain's plan...let's give the biggest tax savings to the people who are out there stimulating the economy and creating new jobs with that money, rather than the lower middle class/poverty sector who are going to buy lottery tickets and beer with that money...

Or we could make it fair for all...

Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans for Fair Taxation

[Mike Williamson]

Here's a great resource for checking the truth of claims made by both sides...

FactCheck.org

[Beth n Rod]

Thanks for the links!
Beth

[Jeff]

Beer money & lottery tickets I'm in, where's the line start LOL

[Beth n Rod]

This is an interesting link ( hope it works). It shows a history of all the polls from various sources during the campaign. It's cool to track them. Battleground States - WSJ.com

Beth

[Mike Williamson]

Here's another interesting site....I followed this site pretty closely for the 2000 and 2004 elections

Electoral-vote.com: President, Senate, House Updated Daily

The guy is pretty liberal so a lot of commentary is skewed that way, but I believe he stays true to the combined polls.

[Scott Stone]

You do realize, of course, that Liberals were the ones that fought tooth and nail against civil rights, don't you? Maybe you remember that it was a liberal that enabled the policies of the great depression and then successfully tacked it onto Hoover, a mere year and 9 months after he was in office? (remember that economic policies have always taken a year or two to trickle down) That Liberals are the ones that did not want to defend us against the attack from Japan, but, would rather talk as the bombs were dropping? Or were also the ones that got us into Korea, and ramped up Vietnam? They also are the ones that let the original bombing at the world trade center slide? Or that it was a liberal that had hostages held in a third rate country for over a year? Maybe you might remember that it was a liberal that had our interest rates at 21% with unemployment at over 10%, a mere 28 years ago? Maybe you might remember that it was a liberal that also dismantled our on the ground intel forces in favor of satellites and wire taps, (which by the way, the Liberals will no longer allow) Maybe you recall that a liberal was the grand dragon of his local KKK? Perhaps you did not know that per capita, conservatives contribute more of their personal funds to charities than liberals, by a wide margin? Maybe you also did not realize, that the evil rich in congress, the wealthiest of the wealthy, are mostly Liberal? Or that a liberal was in charge when the lending restrictions were lifted that put us in our current mess?

All that being said, There is a place in government for both parties. That is another part of the checks and balances that are so predominant in politics. The problem comes when one party, or the other, refuses to mediate, and take an unworkable idea and make it workable.

[Daniel H]

I think Obama and Biden are both jokes!!!!!! Obama is a TRUE socialist pig...
I would never vote Democrat.. Cause I would never support higher taxes to be patriotic,
I would NEVER NEVER support any types of abortion especially partial birth! I would never agree with gay marriage... I dont care about the polar bears we need some more oil.. I want to keep my guns...these are just a VERY few reasons I would never vote Democrat!!! If you are thinking of voting for Obama you are supporting Gays, Higher taxes, Killing babies, Terrorist, (you could be supporting the Rapist or the Murderer that could attack one of your friends or family members, Drug Dealer selling to one of your friends or family members How would you be supporting them you ask? Democrats appoints pansy azz judges!) If you vote Democrat even you dont agree with all these things listed above, you are voting this way wanting "CHANGE" you are still guilty of supporting it!!!!!! There is no middle ground!!! VOTE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN !!!!! where is Reagan when we need him!!!!

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Daniel H

I think Obama and Biden are both jokes!!!!!! Obama is a TRUE socialist pig...
I would never vote Democrat.. Cause I would never support higher taxes to be patriotic,
I would NEVER NEVER support any types of abortion especially partial birth! I would never agree with gay marriage... I dont care about the polar bears we need some more oil.. I want to keep my guns...these are just a VERY few reasons I would never vote Democrat!!! If you are thinking of voting for Obama you are supporting Gays, Higher taxes, Killing babies, Terrorist, (you could be supporting the Rapist or the Murderer that could attack one of your friends or family members, Drug Dealer selling to one of your friends or family members How would you be supporting them you ask? Democrats appoints pansy azz judges!) If you vote Democrat even you dont agree with all these things listed above, you are voting this way wanting "CHANGE" you are still guilty of supporting it!!!!!! There is no middle ground!!! VOTE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN !!!!! where is Reagan when we need him!!!!

RIGHT on brother!

[HotShot]

Originally Posted by Scott Stone

You do realize, of course, that Liberals were the ones that fought tooth and nail against civil rights, don't you? Maybe you remember that it was a liberal that enabled the policies of the great depression and then successfully tacked it onto Hoover, a mere year and 9 months after he was in office? (remember that economic policies have always taken a year or two to trickle down) That Liberals are the ones that did not want to defend us against the attack from Japan, but, would rather talk as the bombs were dropping? Or were also the ones that got us into Korea, and ramped up Vietnam? They also are the ones that let the original bombing at the world trade center slide? Or that it was a liberal that had hostages held in a third rate country for over a year? Maybe you might remember that it was a liberal that had our interest rates at 21% with unemployment at over 10%, a mere 28 years ago? Maybe you might remember that it was a liberal that also dismantled our on the ground intel forces in favor of satellites and wire taps, (which by the way, the Liberals will no longer allow) Maybe you recall that a liberal was the grand dragon of his local KKK? Perhaps you did not know that per capita, conservatives contribute more of their personal funds to charities than liberals, by a wide margin? Maybe you also did not realize, that the evil rich in congress, the wealthiest of the wealthy, are mostly Liberal? Or that a liberal was in charge when the lending restrictions were lifted that put us in our current mess?

All that being said, There is a place in government for both parties. That is another part of the checks and balances that are so predominant in politics. The problem comes when one party, or the other, refuses to mediate, and take an unworkable idea and make it workable.

Great post Scott.

Jeff....great to see you have finally come around