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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves View Post
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    Lets Talk about On property Filters also. I think everyone should know how to look for these. They come in all shapes and Sizes
    THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING!!!!!

    On another note regarding Jim - Showing stuff like this is a big step for him. He would have never done this a year ago. He really is posting this to the select few who does reclaim in garages and understands that most don't need all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stone View Post
    Rod,
    You will notice that in the original post he said he was not going to post details of the reclaim unit.

    Water, at 300 degrees, cannot come out of the nozzles at 4000 PSI. It is physically impossible.
    Huh

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    Rod,
    Sure it can maintain 4000 PSI at 300 degrees while it is in a pressure vessel, which, in this case would be a coil, but immediately after it is released through the nozzles, it turns to steam. So, what you have is a glorified steam cleaner. .
    OK, so which one is it, yes I can hit 4000 psi at 300 degrees or can't it?




    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stone View Post
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    Jim's machine would have the specifications that would make it good for removing grease and oil. It does not remove dirt, which is why he has to spend so much time rinsing with a fire hose. .
    You are right, whether you are at 100 degrees or 325 degrees, removing dirt is about GPM over pressure. So we lower the heat to retain more volume of water and less DRY steam. It is simple and only take a few minutes for the boilers to adjust to the lower temps.

    As far as the fire hose, we rinse with the 80 GPM fire hose from the pressure washing that dis lodged particles PLUS the fire hose rinses the FASTEST and does the best job. Way better than a Vacuum. I know we do use Vacuum as a last resort when drains are not a resource that we can use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stone View Post
    Rod

    Additionally, Jim, if you are so forthcoming with information on how you clean garages, why don't you take the time to share your chemical? Could it be that you know that it really is not that special, or worse, is a caustic??? .
    Well, you have been bugging me for that since you started to clean Garages over at PWI. I told everyone then and I say it again, NO it is not caustic. I can submerge my hand in the product for several minutes, no burns. As you already now, Caustic does not work on Motor oil very well. I am sure that is the whole reason why you are writing this post. Because you cannot remove the oil stain.


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    Rod

    Why don't you use a close looped system, for environmental sustainability?
    Well, if you see the drainage from the cleaning of the parking garage ( Below Photo #3 & #4 ), we simply have too much emulsion of oil for our filter. The only filter that MIGHT work is the Electro coagulation. This will be the next generation of filters. Of course, you knew that..... again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stone View Post
    Rod

    Good stuff, but so there is no flex in the sidewalls? What DOT standard is that.
    Gee, are you saying that you would want to design something that is filled with approx 900 gallons of water and you would want this to Flex while driving down the road, thus causing metal fatigue? Lets take the aluminum and bend back and forth until it breaks. Oh ya, that's smart. Is that how you build your units?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stone View Post
    Rod

    I use a filtration system, that is built in California, to meet California standards, that did not cost me anywhere near $90,000. In fact, anyway that has a little cash, could easily buy it, and achieve the same, or better filtration results than you achieve with your mega dollar rig
    You mean the one filter you have on your rig? That one you told me at the R/T in AZ that it did not work very well. It got clogged all the time and is only good for medium size jobs. The sponge filters are a pain you said.

    All filters work good for some limited time until they suspend the particles that they are filtering, thus clogging up and becoming useless. The bigger the filter, the faster you can clean a Garage Cleaning. However, my filter would be over kill for someones drive way in front of their house and would not be cost effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Stone View Post
    Rod

    And no, I don't post photos. Why? I can go into any garage, before it is cleaned, if it is ever cleaned, and take a photo, and have it look like I was the wonder kid of garage cleaning. It is pointless to me.
    I am not talking about the dirt, shoot most can clean cement with a cold water unit to remove dirt. That is not the issue here. The real issue is getting those oil stains up and filtering the product to meet or exceed local environmental agencies requirements. Showing that they actually have been invited to the job site and they took samples for lab tests, before the filter, during the filtration process and after, to see if you are compliant. You know, like what we discussed a year ago when you asked "what would be required if they showed up at your site? What do they look for? ".


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    It is amazing the conversations that you recall. I don't think I have ever called you for advice. I have teased you about your chemical, because you are so secretive about it, but, really, I don't care. I have my own stuff I use that is environmentally compliant, and I don't have to be secretive about.
    You cannot have steam out of the nozzle at 4000 PSI. It is physically impossible, unless you are aware of a law of physics that I am not. If you are, please, show me proof. Just because it is reading 4000 PSI on your pressure guage does not mean that you are getting 4000 PSI at the nozzle. If you are reducing the heat to get water pressure, then you are flat out lying that you are cleaning at 300 degrees. You need some consistency in your story.
    Sure, the original design of my filter did clog, but, then, I have made modifications to it, because I needed to, and guess what??? It works. The foam filters are a pain, but then, you have to pay $5000 after every garage for filter maintenance, so in my book, that is pain as well. It is all part of the job, and you know, as well as I do, that if there is a little bit better way of doing something that is cost efficient, that you are going to do it.

    You really need to get your science straight, because bigger is not necessarily better.
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    i found this earlier......they say they can hit 300+ degree Equipment
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    UMMMM...... Ron, that's Jim's company LOL
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    lol oops. nevermind, had no idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by big mike View Post
    UMMMM...... Ron, that's Jim's company LOL
    thats funny!

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    Jim, have you ever thought about using a flatbed instead of a trailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyshelton View Post
    Jim, have you ever thought about using a flatbed instead of a trailer?

    ok now thats funnier!

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    You know, That would solve allot of my problems. I could just go in from the top of the garage.

    THANKS !!!!! LOL LOL LOL

    When I refer to the EPA, I am talking about my Local Environmental Authorities. Your local authorities and regulations maybe different !
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    Just show us pics of your old filter if you really want to help us all out and educate us.

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    yea I'd like to see it myself. Im lookin to get into the garage cleaning buisness real soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by splashandash View Post
    Just show us pics of your old filter if you really want to help us all out and educate us.

    Greg, I would but we are using the old filtration and reintegrating it into the new one.

    So to answer your question, the old one does not exist anymore. It is in several pieces.

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