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Question kitchen full of water - Jan 9th, 08, 07:32 PM

Just had to share this..I did a job last night washing a kitchen floor and walls ext.....Well this place had 3 drains on floor.The owner was telling me OH the guys wash it down every day.And the drains work fine...So I fire up the hot water and go to work well a bit later guess what I was a boot deep in stinking water.So i stop work and went to find the owner well he was at the bar.I go out to the dinner room and guess what...you got it water..Did I say it was stinking like a poop plant..So I spent 3 hr pushing crap water out the back door.I mop his floor and the kitchen had a bit of water standing when I left.keep in mind he told me it was OK...I did not get to give it a final rinse
cause i would be back to pushing water around.So he calls me today and says there is a mess.I ask him if he called a plummer cause i can not do nothing till the drains are free to drain.I told him I will re wash .He said he will call me back....Now was i wrong for telling him to get a plummer. I had nothing to do with the bad drains.



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Jan 9th, 08, 07:46 PM

Unless you have the ability to clear drains, then it is his deal to get the plumber.
I have run into this often, where people will say the drains are fine, and then come to find that they are not. It takes a lot of water to clean a floor and most people do not put that much water down their own drain, so they have no clue.
Did you stick the wand in the drain and see if it would clear? I like 0° tips for that. Pop the cover, stick the wand in as far as you can and pull the trigger. Works well in most situations for drains that work but are slow.
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Wow I just re read my post my spelling is way off..Guess that is what happens when trying to type fast.As far has the drain goes I did try that trick and I just got a bunch of stinking water blowing all on me and the kitchen I;ll leave that to the plumber.This is a place where it has like 10 new owners in the past years.So I think it is lack of keeping up in the kitchen
So yes there is a mess left over after the water went down Again nothing I can do till drain is clear for water to drain This was the worst job I have done in my 7 years



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Do you do these types of jobs often? Jetting gear is not that expensive. You already own the most expensive piece, the washer itself.
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Do you do these types of jobs often? Jetting gear is not that expensive. You already own the most expensive piece, the washer itself.
Do you do the jetting? I have looked at them never paid much mind to it.
That just might be a good add on service.Do you offer that service



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Just had to share this..I did a job last night washing a kitchen floor and walls ext.....Well this place had 3 drains on floor.The owner was telling me OH the guys wash it down every day.And the drains work fine...So I fire up the hot water and go to work well a bit later guess what I was a boot deep in stinking water.So i stop work and went to find the owner well he was at the bar.I go out to the dinner room and guess what...you got it water..Did I say it was stinking like a poop plant..So I spent 3 hr pushing crap water out the back door.I mop his floor and the kitchen had a bit of water standing when I left.keep in mind he told me it was OK...I did not get to give it a final rinse
cause i would be back to pushing water around.So he calls me today and says there is a mess.I ask him if he called a plummer cause i can not do nothing till the drains are free to drain.I told him I will re wash .He said he will call me back....Now was i wrong for telling him to get a plummer. I had nothing to do with the bad drains.
Sounds like a job for a reclaimer or wet vac......Just bought one for cleaning kitchen floors and flatwork



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Rule #1... Never trust floor drains to work

Rule #2... Never trust owner when he says floor drains work

Rule #3... Never start cleaning until you've sprayed water into the drains to see if they work for yourself.



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There is a device that attaches to your wand that sucks something like 8 or 10 times the volume from your pw. It discharges through a 2" or 3" hose. I haven't used mine yet, but I'm glad I have it in my arsenal.



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And nothing smells worse than that black putrid water that comes out of clogged drain. It almost makes me puke!
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And nothing smells worse than that black putrid water that comes out of clogged drain. It almost makes me puke!
umm no..I got to disagree.. get a wetvac like Lightening said and let the kitchen grease water sit in it for a week or two and then get back to me..


ps- hey peoples, wheres yer closed loop vac systems for these jobs?
I think yer all off yer rockers doing kitchens with a washer and no suck. Can't get kitchen tile and grout any cleaner then ya can with a bucket of proper chem, scrub brush/lowspeed swing, and wetvac can- or an autoscrubber can. Those tile are hardly ever porous to where pressure matters and the grout is easy enough to make like new with degreaser or other things.



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Go to Sears and get a Craftsman Shop Vac 16 Gallon for around $100. Wash it out when you are done



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Rule #1... Never trust floor drains to work

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Go to Sears and get a Craftsman Shop Vac 16 Gallon for around $100. Wash it out when you are done
Wonder if they make the wands any better on some them Craftsman these days.... Last I seen the wands were big bulky cheap plastic that cracked real easy and the rubber blades were almost useless. One time I used one and it was all akward and left water all over..
What I used to do before autoscrubbers was to take about 20' of 2" steam cleaner hose and hook upto whatever wetvac was handy. Then I'de use the aluminum wand and swiveling wet vac head with changeable blades. I liked the heads made of real tough gray plastic. Janitorial supply houses most places sell them as kits or sepperate parts. Even though such wand setups are tough I used them so much that I musta went through a half dozen wands over the years. Wore holes right through the metal on the bottom angle from scraping crete, tile, and those non slip coatings in the kitchens. The rubber blades soften and wear out from the grease and degreaser also. Regular use sees them getting changed every couple month. That reason alone I would get a wetvac design meant for continual changing of parts available from the janitorial supply houses.



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I've used Craftsman vacs for 15 plus years. I usually get a year from them. I order my vac hose (20ft), aluminum wand and floor tool to fit the hose. You can buy an enlarger cuff to fit hose to vac port. The hose I use is carpet cleaning machine hose. Hesco Inc. is the supplier. Anyone needing further details let me know.



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Rule #1... Never trust floor drains to work

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Ant, you actually have good advice today.

On more thing, sweep the large debris up. Did you do this? make sure the screens on the floor drains are clean and check them while washing regularly.

I hate to say this but you could get blamed for clogging them.

Its doesnt sound like you knew exactly what you were doing????



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