home made pump up foamer

[814jeffw]

Originally Posted by MMI Enterprises

Hi Jeff, good, no attitude taken.. I am just confused a little. So you sealed the bottom of the pumper in case seal gave way? I assume implosion was not considered then right? This is why I mentioned my implosion..it would have to be sealed up top to prevent such..Carry on guys, enjoy the day..

Yea Kevin, if I don't plastic weld the bottom, the seal will give way after while and allows product to bubble up through the center, losing your product but more importantly losing the air. So now when I buy one I just plastic weld it from the get go. I only use these sprayers for my less used products, and I don't use them for my primary spraying. By the way, my plastic welder is a blowtorch and usually the plastic top of a spray paint can.The lids are just right for this. Not all plastic melts the same it seems.

Jeff

[HotShot]

Jeff.... Look around for some used kegs locally. They should be pretty cheap and they are super easy to work with and hold about 120 psi, so you can fill it once with air and shoot a gang of chemical out. The only bad thing about them is it is hard to find plumbing parts for them locally, you usually have to order stuff online.

Statewide... Try these. Like I said, they are no Driplocs, but when you're in a bind, they work.

[MMI Enterprises]

Jeff, Thanx for the info. Do you generally not use strong enough chems to where you would not be worried about an implosion farther up the pump. It'll shoot straight up on you during such a failure.

[814jeffw]

Originally Posted by MMI Enterprises

Jeff, Thanx for the info. Do you generally not use strong enough chems to where you would not be worried about an implosion farther up the pump. It'll shoot straight up on you during such a failure.

Yea Kevin, that must be the case because I have yet to experience any softening of the plastics. I know I have sprayed some pretty hot stuff for the odd job here and there, but it doesn't ever sit in the jug for very long.


Jeff

[814jeffw]

Originally Posted by HotShot

Jeff.... Look around for some used kegs locally. They should be pretty cheap and they are super easy to work with and hold about 120 psi, so you can fill it once with air and shoot a gang of chemical out. The only bad thing about them is it is hard to find plumbing parts for them locally, you usually have to order stuff online.

Thanks for the info Anthony, as it is though, I keep two of the plastic type in my work van, and I use them for a few different products like acids, butly and chlorine. They tend to suit my situation better, in part because of space, but also some of the things I spray are tough on metal. And I don't use them for entire jobs, they kinda' just have their place here and there.

Jeff

[MMI Enterprises]

Jeff, I'd have to say my implosion was from one too many pumps..can't say for sure the plastic had been softened persay.. My new Xtreme has metal pumper and the size or design of the unit as a whole doesn't crave overpumping. It lasts and lasts on hardly anything. Spayed a large pool deck the other day with 5 gal of lacquer and it only needed a few repumps. I have 4 pump up sprayer in my garage I am about ready to throw out.

[chris francis]

Ok can I ask what type pump up every one is using I looking to get good one that will last for more then one season.

[814jeffw]

Just sitting here I can't remember what brand I get, honestly!! But here's something to keep in mind, when I get one I replace the hose with a better one and also replace the wand. I also use a 1/4" quick connector so I can easily take it off and run water through it. Improves the life of the wand tremendously. Also, the quick coupler allows for a swiveling action, which is nice. Dultmeier sales really nice wands. And they're very reasonably priced. They're less than $10.00 and last for a long time, especially when rinsed.

Wand part number: SS 50800-38ALx12

Jeff

[MMI Enterprises]

Originally Posted by chris francis

Ok can I ask what type pump up every one is using I looking to get good one that will last for more then one season.

Depends what yer spraying...
Whitecap has brass Chapin replacement parts.(wand setup= about $50)
I currently have 3 Chapin all of various quality and abilities. Some are viton equipped and so good for bleach or acids. The Xtreme I paid $91 on sale and is mainly for concrete chems and solvents.
Then I have a couple real cheapy small sprayer that are almost disposable from lowes. They were like $10 and work decent enough for safer waterbased chems.

[HotShot]

I use to be able to get 2 5 gallon kegs for < $40...but not anymore.

[chris francis]

Thak you guys looking to get better ones for acid and bleach I too have the cheapos kiven said work nice low temp chems.

[Double07]

I didn't hear anyone say anything about a regulator. Come to think of it I have never even thought of how much pressure is inside a pump up with good seals and all the strokes you can give to it. Another idea I have been mulling over was to use C02 and a regulator. You could hook up a permanent line and adjust your regulator to a very low pressure that you could adjust to meet your need. I wouldn't want to lug this bottle up on the roof for a vent job but I use the same size container to purge/pressure test HVAC systems with dry nitrogen.

[Double07]

I think I will order a pump up foamer but the thought just hit me.....what size is the threads on the pump plunger? Would be nice to slap in say a schedule 80 clean out plug which would give you better working room for setting up your aire source. Thats the way I build my potato guns...put the flint striker in the clean out....keeps potato juice and hair spray from getting the flint all hosed up and sticky. Hmmmmmm...if we can make our own potato guns from schedule 80 then I guess we could make our own sprayer with it as well. The only deal is it would be kinda expensive but hey we have all seen the pump ups and none of them look like schedule 80 do they...maybe this could be a key to a lasting sprayer...but then what would happen to glue joints with the addition of a caustic material?....there we go..who can answer this question for the sake of answering a question? I'm losing my mind...lack of sleep...good night all...............

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