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    Smile home made pump up foamer

    It you want to try foam, just take your old chem bottle (the pump up kind). take out the tube that sucks the chem out of the bottom, and at the top put a little pin hole in the pick up line, just before it comes out the top, Add 6-8 ounces of dawn per gallon of water, shake well and pump the crap out of it,

    The hole at the top of the draw line will let air to pass in and mix with the chem that is being picked up at the bottom, spiting out nice wet foam, not the best foam in the world but foam, you can by a pump up foamer, for about $100, this one does not work as well but it's a lot cheaper. give it a shot, nice for foaming those really small jobs or just washing your car, minus the dawn, use a car wash soap, rain x makes a nice foaming car wash mix. can get it at wallmart.

    and to buy a pump up foamer check Pump-Up Foamer

    that a good one.

    let me know what you think.

    o and their is one of are first foam videos with the home made foamer, have sense then adjusted it, can get good foam with just dawn, dry as snow are wet as milk, put a needle valve on both the chem line and the air line so i can ajust them right at the gun. added a piece of of an old wand about 12 inches fited it with a quick connect so a can add my soaper nozzle that gives it a really nice fan, or put in my other tip (which i drilled out the inside) and can spit a nice stream.

    note: CHEMICAL ARE DANGEROUS ALL WAYS USE CATION WHILE USING THEM EX SPECIALLY WHEN IT'S PRESSURIZED INTO FOAM,
    USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

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    You are right, you can produce foam by poking a hole in the pick up tube of a pump up sprayer. I have done that myself.

    For the money, you can't go wrong with the pump up foamer from Sanitation Tools. I had a guy fly in from North Carolina, for "Greaser 101". He is spraying foam, using a pump up foamer from Sanitation Tools, in the video.

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    Looks good STatewide

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    Instead of pumping the crap out of it, do yourself a favor and get a compressor, then drill the proper size hole in the top of the jug, go to a garage and put tire valve into the jug and use the compressor to put air in the jug.

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    Hay that works, good idea
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    yeah, nothing like a PLASTIC container full of caustic chemicals and compressed with air.....sounds like a plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotShot View Post
    yeah, nothing like a PLASTIC container full of caustic chemicals and compressed with air.....sounds like a plan
    Why do you have PLASTIC capitalized? Kinda like you're trying to make a point. Compressed air is compressed air whether you pump it in or use a compressor. Have you never seen the inflation tools with pressure gauges built in? You can put the recommended amount of air into the jug if you have a clue as to what you're doing. Man, you need to get out in the world a little!! I love sarcasm from someone who hasn't a clue as to what they're commenting on!!

    Disclaimer: Anyone who doesn't know how to use an inflation tool please do not go with this method.


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    All that said... please be careful on pumping things up. Instructions usually say something like pumping until resistance is felt.
    More often than not the pumpup part of a sprayer is made of plastic and when overdoing it or using chems that may have brittled it out or softened them up they can implode. The liquid then comes up the inerds and all over you. This happened to me a couple week back. Thank goodness it was only soy solvent rather than caustic or acid. Hopefully I ended possability of it happening again by buying one with metal pump. Strong caustic may not be good for it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMI Enterprises View Post
    All that said... please be careful on pumping things up. Instructions usually say something like pumping until resistance is felt.
    More often than not the pumpup part of a sprayer is made of plastic and when overdoing it or using chems that may have brittled it out or softened them up they can implode. The liquid then comes up the inerds and all over you. This happened to me a couple week back. Thank goodness it was only soy solvent rather than caustic or acid. Hopefully I ended possability of it happening again by buying one with metal pump. Strong caustic may not be good for it though.
    Yea Kevin, I know what you're talking about. But since I don't use the pump up part of the sprayer, I just plastic weld the bottom shut so nothing can come up through the center of the "pumper". Never had one implode before though, had product come up through the center before, which is why I started plastic welding them shut.

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    If you are going to fill the plastic pump ups with a compressor, I would check the rating on the sprayer and make sure not to exceed that rating. I know some of them have a safety relief valve, but I don't know if this is standard. Also I would be careful with mixing caustics in these, I have seen 5 gallon buckets get soft from the heat of the caustic, the pump up sprayers may be made out of a different plastic, but if your caustic mix gets up to boiling, it is bound to soften up the sprayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbryan View Post
    If you are going to fill the plastic pump ups with a compressor, I would check the rating on the sprayer and make sure not to exceed that rating. I know some of them have a safety relief valve, but I don't know if this is standard. Also I would be careful with mixing caustics in these, I have seen 5 gallon buckets get soft from the heat of the caustic, the pump up sprayers may be made out of a different plastic, but if your caustic mix gets up to boiling, it is bound to soften up the sprayer.

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    Good point Matt, I was only commenting on a simpler way to add air to your sprayer for anyone who may be interested. 40 psi. is 40 psi., whether it be pumped or a compressor is used. With the type of inflation tool I mentioned, it's very easy to control the psi. I've been doing this for about 10 years without incident, whether it be caustic or acid or chlorine, or whatever.

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    So true about it just being plastic, they don't hold up very good i would recommend any one who never has tried using compressed air to fill these to just stick to the hand pump, The rating on these is not very high, must do blow out the release valve but still could get ugly if all the way full or soapy chem,

    and on the pump up foamer i added a a brush where the handle comes apart it agitates the chem a little, better foam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 814jeffw View Post
    Why do you have PLASTIC capitalized? Kinda like you're trying to make a point. Compressed air is compressed air whether you pump it in or use a compressor. Have you never seen the inflation tools with pressure gauges built in? You can put the recommended amount of air into the jug if you have a clue as to what you're doing. Man, you need to get out in the world a little!! I love sarcasm from someone who hasn't a clue as to what they're commenting on!!

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    Why are you defensive Jeff? I'm just trying to look out for the safety of people. I would say that MOST people don't know the psi ratings of these crappy plastic pump ups, therefore, it's not a good idea to use something that can put a lot more than it can hold. If the manufacturer of the pump up wanted to put an inflation valve on it, they would. The directions don't say how much they can hold most of the time.


    I love sarcasm from someone who hasn't a clue as to what they're commenting on!!
    BAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH.....good one. Yeah, I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to foamers, or anything like that.

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    ya how about that foam, seems to be the trick for must of you guys hu,

    does any one on here not use foam?

    does any one know where to get good magnets at? how strong do they got to be?
    does every one get them green claps from Home Depot? what a buy hu?
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    All of you guys make good a point, but when you are going to modify something you should always take every precaution needed and remember safety comes first.
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