Chat Transcript - House Washing 12/8/03

[Beth n Rod]

Mon Dec 8 20:00:03 2003:bethrod [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:05:51 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:06:23 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi!

Mon Dec 8 20:06:39 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:What do you wash if you don't wash many houses.

Mon Dec 8 20:07:04 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:hi beth,

Mon Dec 8 20:07:11 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:dan kessler here

Mon Dec 8 20:07:18 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Ah!

Mon Dec 8 20:07:27 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi Dan. Good to see you here.

Mon Dec 8 20:07:31 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:just lingering while waiting for Monday night football

Mon Dec 8 20:07:37 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:where is everyone?

Mon Dec 8 20:07:37 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:How much snow did you folks get

Mon Dec 8 20:07:45 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:about 8"

Mon Dec 8 20:08:13 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:sometimes it takes a few minutes for people to join...fashionably late...

Mon Dec 8 20:08:21 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:I see

Mon Dec 8 20:08:22 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:we had about a foot.

Mon Dec 8 20:08:32 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:08:38 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:It melts much quicker down there

Mon Dec 8 20:08:42 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Welcome to the chat.

Mon Dec 8 20:09:04 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Rod was cutting ice out of gutters today.

Mon Dec 8 20:09:09 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:how do I turn off the sound?

Mon Dec 8 20:09:26 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:hmmm...your speaker?

Mon Dec 8 20:09:48 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:try the help button is the only other thing I can say

Mon Dec 8 20:09:51 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:oh, I thought it was controllable via the chat module

Mon Dec 8 20:10:17 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:I'm not sure. I suppose I should learn more about the controls huh. lol

Mon Dec 8 20:10:33 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:10:44 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:CMobile, where are you from?

Mon Dec 8 20:10:57 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Pete welcome. Where arre you from.

Mon Dec 8 20:11:01 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:mute works just fine on the speaker

Mon Dec 8 20:11:03 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Massachusetts

Mon Dec 8 20:11:06 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:NEW milford NEW jersey

Mon Dec 8 20:11:26 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:You guys must really be snowbound

Mon Dec 8 20:11:40 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:yes i am

Mon Dec 8 20:11:47 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:2ft.

Mon Dec 8 20:11:56 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:WOW.

Mon Dec 8 20:12:04 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:12:09 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi Alan

Mon Dec 8 20:12:28 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:Hi Beth

Mon Dec 8 20:14:05 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:so how many of you wash houses when you aren't snowbound?

Mon Dec 8 20:14:30 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:I do

Mon Dec 8 20:14:47 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:We have been washing houses 18 years

Mon Dec 8 20:15:57 2003:Firedkm [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:16:02 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:seems like alot fo folks have discussions between do you make a home brew of your own cleaners, or buy a solution for house washing.

Mon Dec 8 20:16:13 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi Dale

Mon Dec 8 20:16:23 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Hi Beth

Mon Dec 8 20:17:05 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:cmobile, what have you found works the best?

Mon Dec 8 20:17:40 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:It really depends on many factors

Mon Dec 8 20:18:19 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Like what? You have more years at house washing than probably the rest of us do.

Mon Dec 8 20:19:29 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:The type of siding, what are you trying to remove-mold, dirt, etc

Mon Dec 8 20:19:43 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:I know we don't like aluminum siding, especially if it's that blue color.

Mon Dec 8 20:20:40 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Aluminum can be tricky

Mon Dec 8 20:20:53 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 20:21:33 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I think any aluminum siding that is oxidized pretty bad is a pain in ......

Mon Dec 8 20:23:07 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 20:23:43 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Beth I thought Ron p was running this tonight?

Mon Dec 8 20:23:44 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:24:16 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:yep. we don't like to handle aluminum if it's really badly oxidized.

Mon Dec 8 20:26:46 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:we find the x-jet is great for applying chems

Mon Dec 8 20:27:16 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:27:16 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Rod changed techniques this past year. Went to hot water, low pressure.

Mon Dec 8 20:27:23 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi Jim

Mon Dec 8 20:27:28 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Unfortunately Here in NJ we have alot of aluminum to clean. As long as your careful your fine.

Mon Dec 8 20:27:59 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Around here the aluminum that is left is really old.

Mon Dec 8 20:28:20 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Beth is he doing the hot water on vinyl too?

Mon Dec 8 20:28:33 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Do you use the x-jet on all house wash jobs

Mon Dec 8 20:28:43 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I do

Mon Dec 8 20:28:59 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Why?

Mon Dec 8 20:29:35 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Its alot faster than the conventional downstreaming

Mon Dec 8 20:29:49 2003:EXTREME [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:30:02 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How so?

Mon Dec 8 20:30:03 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi Mike

Mon Dec 8 20:30:15 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:wuz up, lol

Mon Dec 8 20:30:18 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:hello all

Mon Dec 8 20:30:26 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:Hey Mike

Mon Dec 8 20:30:34 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:Hi Mike

Mon Dec 8 20:30:51 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:30:57 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:hello every one, answering any big questions yet?

Mon Dec 8 20:31:16 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:The chems are right there with you not at you trailer. the chems are injected right from you wand instead of traveling all through your hose.

Mon Dec 8 20:31:32 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:gotta say, not a fan of the x jet

Mon Dec 8 20:31:44 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:You get more chems on the house faster and alot less waste.

Mon Dec 8 20:32:02 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:I disagree, and here's why...

Mon Dec 8 20:32:15 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Since I started using the x-jet I cut my wash time in half

Mon Dec 8 20:32:22 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:you have to carry around buckets, could tip them over, much waste

Mon Dec 8 20:32:26 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Msg:I agree, it's faster, higher chem concentration, able to reach 2 stories without a ladder

Mon Dec 8 20:32:35 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:since I stopped using the xjet, I became even faster

Mon Dec 8 20:32:56 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How?

Mon Dec 8 20:33:09 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:use a good downstreamer, a #40, 0 degree tip and your golden

Mon Dec 8 20:33:50 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:when you want to rinse, use a #30, 0 degree tip and you won't pull chems

Mon Dec 8 20:33:51 2003:Jon [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:33:59 2003:Jon [0/] Msg:evening all

Mon Dec 8 20:34:02 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:hi Jon

Mon Dec 8 20:34:14 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:What do you use to keep the high pressure water from entering into your chemical storage?

Mon Dec 8 20:34:26 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Mike I use a 30 gal tank mouted to a handtruck with about 40' foot of hose.

Mon Dec 8 20:34:50 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:no spills the container is closed

Mon Dec 8 20:34:56 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:I understand fire, but wouldn't it be easier to not use a cart at all?

Mon Dec 8 20:35:11 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:sometimes I just use a ball valve to apply chems

Mon Dec 8 20:35:25 2003:Jon [0/] Msg:Hiya Alan

Mon Dec 8 20:35:28 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:for some maybe

Mon Dec 8 20:35:38 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:if you like the xjet, stay with it, I am just pointing out another option. I have used both and have my favorite

Mon Dec 8 20:35:40 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:But for me it great

Mon Dec 8 20:36:05 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:then stick with it if it works for you

Mon Dec 8 20:36:30 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:anyone else want to talk besides me and fire, lol

Mon Dec 8 20:36:38 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I will.

Mon Dec 8 20:36:54 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I am sure your method works well also

Mon Dec 8 20:37:03 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:as I am sure yours do also

Mon Dec 8 20:37:04 2003:Jon [0/] Msg:just want to listen and learn, I do flatwork but have given thought to stucco homes.

Mon Dec 8 20:37:22 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:make sure you use that tickle charger, lol

Mon Dec 8 20:37:33 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:just we all have our ways of doing things and sharing them is what we need to do

Mon Dec 8 20:37:41 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:i agree

Mon Dec 8 20:37:53 2003:Stan [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:38:00 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:hello stan

Mon Dec 8 20:38:01 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:hello stan

Mon Dec 8 20:38:03 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:to get other ideas to help us do thing better

Mon Dec 8 20:38:09 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Hello

Mon Dec 8 20:38:13 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:Do most of you use extension ladders od steo ladders?

Mon Dec 8 20:38:23 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:as little as possible

Mon Dec 8 20:38:27 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:oops "step"

Mon Dec 8 20:38:30 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:Never

Mon Dec 8 20:38:50 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:to wash a house no, to get on a roof, yes

Mon Dec 8 20:38:55 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I will use a step ladder just to get a little more height of the x-jet.

Mon Dec 8 20:39:05 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:how do you hit the high spots

Mon Dec 8 20:39:06 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:I only use a ladder when I need to get to a difficult place to reach on the odd section. (p.s. Rod here)

Mon Dec 8 20:39:07 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:you could use a longer wand

Mon Dec 8 20:39:25 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I hate using extension wands

Mon Dec 8 20:39:37 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I will if I have too

Mon Dec 8 20:39:44 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:have you tried an extend-a-wand?

Mon Dec 8 20:39:51 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:not an extension, I agree, I hate them too, I mean maybe a 8 foot alum. wand

Mon Dec 8 20:40:08 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:I use mostly an x-jet type of chem thrower.

Mon Dec 8 20:40:15 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:I even have a 12 footer

Mon Dec 8 20:40:19 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:I use a 12 ft step ladder and I use an extendawand

Mon Dec 8 20:40:33 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:that sounds scary

Mon Dec 8 20:40:34 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:I have the corell??? I think its a 24' long

Mon Dec 8 20:40:35 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:I use 24 fter and x jet

Mon Dec 8 20:40:39 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:yeah...there you go, an ext. wand of at least 72"

Mon Dec 8 20:41:37 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:I have seen guys around here lean an extension ladder against the house and wash with a shorter wand and eyes closed

Mon Dec 8 20:41:47 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Any one encounter the type of situation where you have a stain under the eve on aluminum siding that just wont come off no matter what you do?

Mon Dec 8 20:41:53 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:That is scary!

Mon Dec 8 20:42:05 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:How do they see what ther doing???

Mon Dec 8 20:42:12 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Pitting

Mon Dec 8 20:42:13 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:it runs along the entire eve and comes down 2-3 feet.

Mon Dec 8 20:42:34 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Whats it look like?

Mon Dec 8 20:42:57 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:well i dont go up to top run...i open wand to about 12 ft and i cover a good amount of area

Mon Dec 8 20:43:04 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:It's pitting

Mon Dec 8 20:43:11 2003:Jon [0/] Msg:Hate to leave so soon but something just came up so need to get going. Bye all.

Mon Dec 8 20:43:20 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Bye Jon

Mon Dec 8 20:43:26 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:bye, jon

Mon Dec 8 20:43:29 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:later

Mon Dec 8 20:43:32 2003:Jon [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 20:43:57 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:it looks like a dark residue that sits in the pattern of the siding that makes it look like wood. kinds like a rust stain

Mon Dec 8 20:44:18 2003:EXTREME [0/] Msg:monday night football time, see ya later

Mon Dec 8 20:44:22 2003:EXTREME [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 20:44:36 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:This is pitting

Mon Dec 8 20:45:04 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Have you tried some oxcalioc

Mon Dec 8 20:45:08 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:can it be removed? or is it damage?

Mon Dec 8 20:45:21 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:my spelling stinks!!!!

Mon Dec 8 20:45:40 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:It depends on how bad it is

Mon Dec 8 20:45:53 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:If it's piiting it pretty much damaged

Mon Dec 8 20:46:10 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Once aluminum has started pitting it is going to stay that way.

Mon Dec 8 20:46:17 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:At the very least you can lighten it

Mon Dec 8 20:47:40 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:what causes the pitting?

Mon Dec 8 20:48:15 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:I have 16 years with aluminum and steel - best to clean it seal it and repaint if neccesary or it will keep on eating the metal

Mon Dec 8 20:48:24 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Got me

Mon Dec 8 20:48:59 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:It is similar to rust on steel

Mon Dec 8 20:49:22 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Pitting in aluminum is the equivalent to rust in steel. but it keeps going untill the al is completly eaten

Mon Dec 8 20:49:54 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Correction--can keep going

Mon Dec 8 20:50:22 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:It normarly occurs in areas protected from the elements-overhangs,porches

Mon Dec 8 20:51:12 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:is it due to a defect or what?

Mon Dec 8 20:51:21 2003:RonP [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:51:24 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:No

Mon Dec 8 20:51:32 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi Ron

Mon Dec 8 20:51:52 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:hey i made it thank's for your help

Mon Dec 8 20:52:24 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:it can be defective or the elements or a reaction to the elements

Mon Dec 8 20:52:26 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Better late than never:P

Mon Dec 8 20:52:30 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:hi Ron

Mon Dec 8 20:52:34 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:Beth rules

Mon Dec 8 20:52:34 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:where are we on this subject?

Mon Dec 8 20:52:48 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:Hey Ron you made it

Mon Dec 8 20:53:10 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:score

Mon Dec 8 20:53:12 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:had a tuff time registering

Mon Dec 8 20:54:02 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Are we talking about cleaning or selling?

Mon Dec 8 20:54:27 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Did anyone read the last page of cleaner time's

Mon Dec 8 20:54:50 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:sometimes it can be a bubble in the paint or tape or anything covering aluminum

Mon Dec 8 20:55:03 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:The one with the do it your self?

Mon Dec 8 20:55:17 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:read that very good

Mon Dec 8 20:55:25 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:yea, that's the best thing ive read in a long time

Mon Dec 8 20:55:40 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:share with us

Mon Dec 8 20:55:45 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Its was pretty funny and very accurate

Mon Dec 8 20:55:51 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:im going to include that with every est for house washing

Mon Dec 8 20:56:01 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Good idea

Mon Dec 8 20:56:23 2003:Stan [0/] JoinRoom:_

Mon Dec 8 20:56:23 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:please share

Mon Dec 8 20:56:41 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:I did not read it

Mon Dec 8 20:56:48 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:it was about how a homeowner think's he can save money by washing his home himself

Mon Dec 8 20:57:12 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:it's supposed to be a true story

Mon Dec 8 20:57:45 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:it's about rental cost's,chem cost's,breakdown's, doing a bad job

Mon Dec 8 20:58:02 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:seen something like that

Mon Dec 8 20:58:14 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:and the neighbor hiers it don and enjoys his day

Mon Dec 8 20:58:28 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:then his neibour tell's him a real pro is washing his house the next day while he play's golf

Mon Dec 8 20:58:54 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 20:58:55 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:That was a cute article :)

Mon Dec 8 20:59:02 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Free time can cost you

Mon Dec 8 20:59:04 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Hi JT!

Mon Dec 8 20:59:07 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:Hi Jason

Mon Dec 8 20:59:12 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Hi JT

Mon Dec 8 20:59:34 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:thanks bethrod, HI ALL !

Mon Dec 8 20:59:36 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you prob have more crew's then any on the bbs

Mon Dec 8 20:59:48 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:You're welcome! :)

Mon Dec 8 21:00:04 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:What type of house's do you wash mostly?

Mon Dec 8 21:00:35 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:I cleaned my neighbors driveways in 3 hours and he spent 3 summers trying to do it with a wand and 900psi. :)

Mon Dec 8 21:00:37 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I know you like the shooter tip's

Mon Dec 8 21:00:51 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:aluminum, vinyl, brick....

Mon Dec 8 21:00:57 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Beth -the navy has some aluminum primer it uses to keep the pitting at a low but that only slowes it up and here on the ground it is not uses of course there is not as much salt floating around.

Mon Dec 8 21:01:00 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:70% aluminum the other vinyl

Mon Dec 8 21:01:01 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:I love shooter tips, low pressure

Mon Dec 8 21:01:06 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:All types, mostly solid color stain, then natural

Mon Dec 8 21:01:18 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:vinal and brick

Mon Dec 8 21:01:36 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:what are shooter tips?

Mon Dec 8 21:01:36 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:70% alum-do they still make alum sideing?

Mon Dec 8 21:01:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Come on JT [shooter tip's}

Mon Dec 8 21:02:13 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:The area I live in has alot of older homes

Mon Dec 8 21:02:20 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:shooter tips use downstream injection, they apply chemicals at low pressure

Mon Dec 8 21:02:43 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:AKA soap nozzle

Mon Dec 8 21:02:50 2003:Firedkm [0/] Msg:Duh

Mon Dec 8 21:03:06 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:you can also use the tips for rinse, if you have a shut off at the bucket

Mon Dec 8 21:03:08 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:well, you asked...

Mon Dec 8 21:03:11 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I like the x-jet because of the volume of chem. JT dos'nt need the high volume

Mon Dec 8 21:03:15 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:long range

Mon Dec 8 21:03:24 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:JT what is your mix

Mon Dec 8 21:03:28 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Rod loves the soap nozzle and hot water to rinse.

Mon Dec 8 21:03:31 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:how strong do you need your wash mix

Mon Dec 8 21:03:50 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:down stream is 20%

Mon Dec 8 21:04:00 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:35 to 40%

Mon Dec 8 21:04:04 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:why hot water to rinse

Mon Dec 8 21:04:13 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:20% of what?

Mon Dec 8 21:04:26 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:I never could figure out cleaning residental using x-jet

Mon Dec 8 21:04:28 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:no no no hot water rinse Hot water dull's

Mon Dec 8 21:04:40 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:We dont run chemicals that hot

Mon Dec 8 21:04:41 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:it's what he likes to use, plus he like spotless windows...or as close as he can get

Mon Dec 8 21:04:49 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:cold water leave's a shine

Mon Dec 8 21:05:07 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:How do you dull Brick???

Mon Dec 8 21:05:40 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I change my ratio of my mix by the outside temp

Mon Dec 8 21:06:03 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:are you guys still washing residental homes

Mon Dec 8 21:06:09 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:we're only talking about 115 degrees

Mon Dec 8 21:06:10 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:OK you cant dull brick

Mon Dec 8 21:06:36 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:what do you mean still

Mon Dec 8 21:06:54 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you mean because of the season?

Mon Dec 8 21:07:06 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Login:

Mon Dec 8 21:07:09 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:a lot of guys in our area have stopped due to cold weather

Mon Dec 8 21:07:21 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:I have been pushing on

Mon Dec 8 21:07:48 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I had 2 lined-up but we got a snow storm

Mon Dec 8 21:08:05 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i'll be washing truck's this weekend

Mon Dec 8 21:08:10 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:it was 17 degrees this morning in richmond, va

Mon Dec 8 21:08:16 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:its been years since i saw one of those

Mon Dec 8 21:08:44 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:You sunshine guy's sure have it made

Mon Dec 8 21:08:56 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:cleaned gutters today, and removed ice here

Mon Dec 8 21:09:03 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:You never should have moved

Mon Dec 8 21:09:19 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:your right

Mon Dec 8 21:09:20 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Hi All, I'm late getting on so I will sit back and read a while to try to catch up with what is goin on.

Mon Dec 8 21:09:31 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:i have a test gutter outside our shop, it tells us in the moring if it is possible to clean gutters

Mon Dec 8 21:09:38 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:no more wasted trips

Mon Dec 8 21:09:49 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:how does it do that?

Mon Dec 8 21:09:52 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:let's get to some nut's and bolt's of "how too"

Mon Dec 8 21:10:04 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:For those that use the X-Jet can you explain your process?

Mon Dec 8 21:10:05 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:Frozen or not

Mon Dec 8 21:10:06 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:OK

Mon Dec 8 21:10:23 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:First off i want to know who use's soft water

Mon Dec 8 21:10:35 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:who cares if they are frozen? Hot water cuts ice (or melts it)

Mon Dec 8 21:10:55 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:soft after I beat it with a bat

Mon Dec 8 21:10:57 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:we clean them by hand, no pressure washer

Mon Dec 8 21:11:11 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:ah...

Mon Dec 8 21:11:28 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Do you guy's have NED steven"s in your area

Mon Dec 8 21:11:49 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:?

Mon Dec 8 21:11:53 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:we used to clean them out by hand, then Rod found another method.

Mon Dec 8 21:11:54 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:how long does it take to clean the gutters on a 2 story home with a pressure washer

Mon Dec 8 21:12:08 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Msg:I recently read a post that it is better to clean with soft, cold water than hot hard water.

Mon Dec 8 21:12:10 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Hey Ron - I live not to far from you (south) and our water is pretty good. Is water really that much of a concern for you?

Mon Dec 8 21:12:20 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:he is the world's largest gutter cleaning service and he is dirt cheap

Mon Dec 8 21:12:24 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:45 minutes

Mon Dec 8 21:12:39 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:includes set up and break down

Mon Dec 8 21:12:54 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i want to find out if soft water is everything it's cracked up to be

Mon Dec 8 21:13:13 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:what are current prices for gutter cleaning, we charge $95.00 two story

Mon Dec 8 21:13:16 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:we're on city water here. some client shave wells farther out

Mon Dec 8 21:13:26 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Nice money JT

Mon Dec 8 21:13:46 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:we charge $65.00 for single story

Mon Dec 8 21:13:49 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:around here it's not quite that high. Too many lowballers have ruined it.

Mon Dec 8 21:13:51 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I think in area's like the desert where there are a lot minerals in the water it is. But if you have good water I don't think so.

Mon Dec 8 21:14:04 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:My guys are cleaning 10-20 a day

Mon Dec 8 21:14:19 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:ive got a bad spotting problem

Mon Dec 8 21:14:20 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:Just charge $55.00 for a small pool house at a community pool plus alot of other things.

Mon Dec 8 21:14:21 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:how?

Mon Dec 8 21:14:42 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:are you using a rinse aid?

Mon Dec 8 21:14:44 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:10-20 a day how?

Mon Dec 8 21:15:01 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:4 men, 2 crews. We are very organized. one after another.

Mon Dec 8 21:15:10 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Ned Steven's has 75 crew's doing 25 to 30 per day in the busy season

Mon Dec 8 21:15:24 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:no b.s.

Mon Dec 8 21:15:32 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:4 men per crew or 2 men per crew

Mon Dec 8 21:15:55 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:2 men per crew

Mon Dec 8 21:16:12 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:one guy goes to the door,the other run's up on the roof and start's by hand

Mon Dec 8 21:16:17 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:ah...5 to 10 jobs per crew them?

Mon Dec 8 21:16:22 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:Last year my brother and I cleaned out 15 in one day. Just 2 of us

Mon Dec 8 21:16:48 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:then they throw the crud on the ground and hose them out. Collect check and run

Mon Dec 8 21:16:49 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:lots of money in gutter cleaning

Mon Dec 8 21:16:54 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:close together? ramblers? townhomes?

Mon Dec 8 21:17:10 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:radio dispatched

Mon Dec 8 21:17:37 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:All our gutter cleaning is close together, Hanover county, va. 20 mile radis

Mon Dec 8 21:18:08 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:that helps. we are really spread out with lots of traffic here. we try to schedule days in certain areas.

Mon Dec 8 21:18:37 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:just purchased a new machine 10.8 gpm

Mon Dec 8 21:18:56 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:how does it work

Mon Dec 8 21:19:01 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:wow, dual gun's?

Mon Dec 8 21:19:11 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:what a pig.. Yes duel guns

Mon Dec 8 21:19:37 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Good for wash down's after the surface cleaner

Mon Dec 8 21:19:40 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:hot water? must burn a lot of fuel to get that much water hot.

Mon Dec 8 21:19:46 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:what brand?

Mon Dec 8 21:19:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:also good for new construction clean-up

Mon Dec 8 21:20:14 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:bet it's not hot water

Mon Dec 8 21:20:24 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:cold machine, pressure pro

Mon Dec 8 21:20:33 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:only olson has a rig like that

Mon Dec 8 21:20:51 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:what pump?

Mon Dec 8 21:20:51 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:just saw that in cleaner time's today

Mon Dec 8 21:20:58 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:stainless steel cart, general pump

Mon Dec 8 21:21:03 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:genral i bet

Mon Dec 8 21:21:31 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Where do you get the water from

Mon Dec 8 21:21:37 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:can't wait to make some money with it

Mon Dec 8 21:21:45 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:have to run it from a tank

Mon Dec 8 21:22:08 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:my tank is set up for 2 spickets inlet

Mon Dec 8 21:22:13 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:must have a big tank

Mon Dec 8 21:22:24 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:525 gal

Mon Dec 8 21:22:35 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Are you going to get into sewer jetting

Mon Dec 8 21:22:51 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:don't know much about sewer jetting

Mon Dec 8 21:23:07 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:big buck's to be made their

Mon Dec 8 21:23:12 2003:PETELESCAILLE [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 21:23:22 2003:Firedkm [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 21:23:27 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you should look into it

Mon Dec 8 21:23:47 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How so?

Mon Dec 8 21:23:51 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I guess everyone is going to watch Football.

Mon Dec 8 21:23:56 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:who would hire you for sewer jetting

Mon Dec 8 21:24:11 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:they are dropping like flies anyone have a question about house washing

Mon Dec 8 21:24:17 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:is it unclogging pipes

Mon Dec 8 21:24:27 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:JT yes

Mon Dec 8 21:24:39 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:roto rooter

Mon Dec 8 21:24:46 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Ron P. What all do you use for spraying chems on target

Mon Dec 8 21:24:55 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:Yes, what chems do you use on vinal and brick houses?

Mon Dec 8 21:25:15 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:what is the best wash mix for residental homes

Mon Dec 8 21:25:22 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:it depend's on what your trying to remove

Mon Dec 8 21:25:32 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i like the x-jet

Mon Dec 8 21:25:34 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:mildew/dirt

Mon Dec 8 21:25:44 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:Mold and mildew

Mon Dec 8 21:26:12 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:d-limonlene from e-spec is good for carbon type dirt

Mon Dec 8 21:26:31 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:bleach is the only thing that kill's mold

Mon Dec 8 21:26:31 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:How is everbody doing paver stone cleaning. They have become poular hear. they look great for a year then they get weeds and dirt. Hard as hell to clean without blowing the sand out. I end up pricing it high - factoring in that I will need to re sand. Any

Mon Dec 8 21:27:41 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I do what you do. Blow out the sand,seal the paver's if i can talk them into it, then resand

Mon Dec 8 21:27:58 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Tim, have you tried a surface cleaner on them?

Mon Dec 8 21:28:13 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Hey Ron - Have you tried d-Lomonene on mold? I have on a house the they owner isisted I not use bleach. It took longer but it worked.

Mon Dec 8 21:28:23 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:yes i use a surface cleaner

Mon Dec 8 21:28:45 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i mix the 2, never tried just limonlene.

Mon Dec 8 21:29:16 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:if the customer said no bleach, i might have used sented bleach

Mon Dec 8 21:29:31 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Yes the surface cleaner blows out the sand also and it does not work well because they often have puddling problems.

Mon Dec 8 21:29:42 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:do you use plexmaster

Mon Dec 8 21:29:47 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:anyone going to 2004 convention

Mon Dec 8 21:30:27 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:Yep

Mon Dec 8 21:30:31 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:what is the environmental book camp all about

Mon Dec 8 21:30:44 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Don't mix them - It makes them both useless

Mon Dec 8 21:30:45 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:have not sat through that one.

Mon Dec 8 21:30:52 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:if they have puddle problem's it's because they were not installed correctly

Mon Dec 8 21:30:56 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:But I can find out for you if you like.

Mon Dec 8 21:31:01 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I do use plexmaster

Mon Dec 8 21:31:24 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:great

Mon Dec 8 21:31:29 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:have you tried it on paver's

Mon Dec 8 21:31:48 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:it is the only book camp I'm considering attending

Mon Dec 8 21:32:07 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:no hoods, and I know wood

Mon Dec 8 21:32:40 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:TM you use them fancy $7000 wash unit's, right?

Mon Dec 8 21:32:45 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Well - I guess they are not planed well raised beds and when the growth gets between the bricks it doesn't get through

Mon Dec 8 21:32:48 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:I'll email you with waht I can get you info on.

Mon Dec 8 21:33:12 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:thanks, you are very helpful

Mon Dec 8 21:33:29 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:No problem, happy to help.

Mon Dec 8 21:33:45 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:I think the convention is a little expensive

Mon Dec 8 21:34:02 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I've not used plexmaster on pavers - just vynle siding

Mon Dec 8 21:34:07 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:I attend many conventions for the pdca, not as expensive

Mon Dec 8 21:34:20 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:I'm on the boad for pdca, richmond chapter

Mon Dec 8 21:34:41 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:would be interested in seeing the lineup they have so we can compare it to what we are doing.

Mon Dec 8 21:34:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:It will darken the paver's a little bit but it waterproof's them for about a year

Mon Dec 8 21:35:11 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:very similar lineup, guest speakers, tradeshow

Mon Dec 8 21:35:16 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:wont make them slippery.

Mon Dec 8 21:35:24 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:just not as expensive

Mon Dec 8 21:35:58 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:TM check out www.wonderpaint.com when you get a chance

Mon Dec 8 21:36:01 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:I'm going this year, just don't know for how many days

Mon Dec 8 21:36:08 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:I hate to be a party pooper, but I have a few things to take care of and then an early day tomorrow.

Mon Dec 8 21:36:33 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Have you used naything else on them. I just had 1000 sqr put down at my home and would like to see them last. I want the best I can get

Mon Dec 8 21:36:34 2003:bethrod [0/] Msg:nite all :)

Mon Dec 8 21:36:35 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Bye beth thank's

Mon Dec 8 21:36:45 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:bye

Mon Dec 8 21:36:54 2003:bethrod [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 21:37:10 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:try that link i just gave you.

Mon Dec 8 21:37:21 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:OK,

Mon Dec 8 21:37:31 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:www.paverpro.com is another

Mon Dec 8 21:37:41 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Msg:goodnight all, see you next time.

Mon Dec 8 21:37:58 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I guess you do work in Deal?

Mon Dec 8 21:38:05 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Msg:nite JT and I am going to crash also.

Mon Dec 8 21:38:09 2003:JTPAINTWASH [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 21:38:21 2003:JimCrossley [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 21:38:30 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:not much, they have all the money but spend much

Mon Dec 8 21:38:46 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:how and what is used on roofs

Mon Dec 8 21:38:56 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you can only work on certian day's in that town

Mon Dec 8 21:39:00 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I'm down at LBI - ever work hear?

Mon Dec 8 21:39:24 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:No Saterday - right?

Mon Dec 8 21:39:36 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:no never that far south

Mon Dec 8 21:40:06 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Stan, on asphalt roofs I used a Noah based cleaner called New again.

Mon Dec 8 21:40:09 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:it's from labor day to memorial day that no work can be done in that town

Mon Dec 8 21:40:41 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Do you use a pitch witch?

Mon Dec 8 21:40:59 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:You mean mem. to laborday (summer season) right?

Mon Dec 8 21:41:08 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Msg:Time to et ready for the concrete derby, er I mean cleaning. Later guys

Mon Dec 8 21:41:13 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:yea that's it

Mon Dec 8 21:41:31 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:bye otp

Mon Dec 8 21:41:33 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:bye

Mon Dec 8 21:41:37 2003:One_Tough_Pressure [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 21:41:48 2003:dontwashmanyhouses [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 21:41:55 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I don't own a pitch witch- I don't do enough roofs. maybe six a year

Mon Dec 8 21:42:01 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:the crowd has moved on

Mon Dec 8 21:42:15 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:tuff to market here

Mon Dec 8 21:42:39 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:a lot need done but no one know's about washing them

Mon Dec 8 21:42:48 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:also, they suck to do.

Mon Dec 8 21:43:01 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:not easy money

Mon Dec 8 21:43:02 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:I have done abt 5 this year but my first year

Mon Dec 8 21:43:19 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:are you down south stan?

Mon Dec 8 21:43:31 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Florence Alabama

Mon Dec 8 21:43:36 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:people still dont get how bad mold is to their health

Mon Dec 8 21:43:56 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Lots of growth - Lots of washing - lots of money!

Mon Dec 8 21:44:03 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:not tried that sales pitch yet will though

Mon Dec 8 21:44:20 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:cold calling suck's

Mon Dec 8 21:44:47 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:for me truck's is where the money is

Mon Dec 8 21:45:16 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Tell me about it , I used this nice cold day to try and get some truck accounts - I hate it.

Mon Dec 8 21:45:16 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:what else has no season in a state where you have 4 season's

Mon Dec 8 21:45:19 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:read in posts that x-jet used on roofs tgat are steep does it not peel the shingles

Mon Dec 8 21:45:49 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:not if you put the soap tip in

Mon Dec 8 21:46:01 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:arch the stream and let the chem run down

Mon Dec 8 21:46:24 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:washing trucks in the cold is better than washing a two story

Mon Dec 8 21:46:30 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I like to do bottom up on everything do it does not streak.

Mon Dec 8 21:46:40 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:cmobile you out their?

Mon Dec 8 21:47:13 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:truck's can suck but the money is good

Mon Dec 8 21:47:33 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:I have found that the road dirt comes off better from bottom up

Mon Dec 8 21:47:33 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you have to work all night's and sunday's

Mon Dec 8 21:47:51 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i am a 2 stepper

Mon Dec 8 21:47:54 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I would say thsy both have their down side - I usually don't get a check (or cash) when I'm done my trucks

Mon Dec 8 21:48:09 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:give me acid and make it strong

Mon Dec 8 21:48:21 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:how does it work

Mon Dec 8 21:48:32 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:2 stepping?

Mon Dec 8 21:48:41 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:yes

Mon Dec 8 21:48:42 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:yes 2 step

Mon Dec 8 21:48:44 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:chemistry

Mon Dec 8 21:48:54 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:good artical in cleaner times about two stepping

Mon Dec 8 21:49:03 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:acid meet's base and POW

Mon Dec 8 21:49:13 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Just read it

Mon Dec 8 21:49:27 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Close in your opinion?

Mon Dec 8 21:49:50 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you down stream the acid with a dual lance and then shoot hot upstream soap on top

Mon Dec 8 21:50:01 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:read article tried it saterday and didnot save time but was les brushing. Got to get use to it.

Mon Dec 8 21:50:11 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:it was a little tec. for me.

Mon Dec 8 21:50:34 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:what type of acid did you use.

Mon Dec 8 21:50:49 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:I used cold both sides hot water really makes that differance?

Mon Dec 8 21:50:53 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:if the acid wont kill you then it's no good

Mon Dec 8 21:51:06 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I've always acid, soap and rinse. According to the artical it would be beter to acid, rinse, soap, rinse.

Mon Dec 8 21:51:23 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:hot water rule's

Mon Dec 8 21:51:38 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:no way would i rinse off my acid

Mon Dec 8 21:51:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:HF and make it strong

Mon Dec 8 21:52:09 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Dont know name but it is a 1 on the scale

Mon Dec 8 21:52:16 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i'll give you a secret tip.

Mon Dec 8 21:52:29 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:love secrets

Mon Dec 8 21:53:02 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:eather [as in starting fluid] added to the HF make's the best stuff ive ever seen.

Mon Dec 8 21:53:21 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:how much

Mon Dec 8 21:53:34 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:do you soap windows and are you afraid of getting it on the really nice rigs?

Mon Dec 8 21:53:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I know some dont like larry aka bigboy but he's smarter then 99% of the people out their.

Mon Dec 8 21:54:38 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I 2 step all truck's unless polished

Mon Dec 8 21:55:04 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:you mean aluminum pollished

Mon Dec 8 21:55:32 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:I've noticed it does not like dark paint, polished alum. and glass

Mon Dec 8 21:55:42 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:Window's get screwed up because people dont rinse well enuff. It lay's in the gutter rail's and leak's down.

Mon Dec 8 21:56:11 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:alum,stainless,anything that is hand polished

Mon Dec 8 21:56:29 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:polish is just wax

Mon Dec 8 21:56:36 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:I just got orders to take the worn polish off a gas tanker and no runs or shades took a lot of acid

Mon Dec 8 21:57:12 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you can get acid in diffrent strangth's

Mon Dec 8 21:57:25 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:if you used acid it would have made the tanker white. No?

Mon Dec 8 21:57:51 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:gave it a satin finish after 2ed wash

Mon Dec 8 21:57:54 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:Hey ron where do you get your HF?

Mon Dec 8 21:57:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:If you used strong HF it sure would turn white

Mon Dec 8 21:58:22 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:for ha ha's check out www.eachchem.com

Mon Dec 8 21:58:47 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:www.eacochem.com sorry

Mon Dec 8 21:59:21 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:they have buffered acid's

Mon Dec 8 21:59:39 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Ron please explain about using eather with acid

Mon Dec 8 22:00:04 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you add the eather to the HF acid

Mon Dec 8 22:00:23 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:HF acid is more then just HF

Mon Dec 8 22:00:43 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How much? what does it do?

Mon Dec 8 22:01:08 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:im no chemist but eather must raise the PH level

Mon Dec 8 22:01:41 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How much do you add?

Mon Dec 8 22:01:45 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:the bigger the diffrence in the PH level's of the acid and soap the bigger the POW

Mon Dec 8 22:02:38 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:in my acid i used 5 gal in a 55 gal drum, then it's 1 gal of acid to 4 gal of water,then downstream at 10 to 1.

Mon Dec 8 22:02:55 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I get my acid from a landa dealer.

Mon Dec 8 22:03:23 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:he cant get me ether anymore and i cant find a supplier.

Mon Dec 8 22:03:36 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:5 gallons of eather?

Mon Dec 8 22:03:58 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:yes

Mon Dec 8 22:04:29 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:it evoperate's fast

Mon Dec 8 22:05:06 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:ive seen carpet cleaner's use this stuff

Mon Dec 8 22:05:15 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:it also has flash poin in the negative degree area

Mon Dec 8 22:05:22 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How did you come up with using ether

Mon Dec 8 22:05:30 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:bigboy

Mon Dec 8 22:05:49 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:he make's his own HF

Mon Dec 8 22:06:07 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:the only guy who i know that dose

Mon Dec 8 22:06:10 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Does it last when its mixed

Mon Dec 8 22:06:38 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How does he make it?

Mon Dec 8 22:06:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I cant tell how it work's, it just kick's it up a notch.

Mon Dec 8 22:07:11 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:he buy's the raw chem's

Mon Dec 8 22:07:36 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:when your in farm country you can get stuff like this.

Mon Dec 8 22:07:49 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Does ether have a shelf life when mixed?

Mon Dec 8 22:08:20 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:you cant get it around here because the drug dealer's use it to make meth amphatimin

Mon Dec 8 22:08:38 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i keep the lid on

Mon Dec 8 22:09:16 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:The DEA would be on you if you order it

Mon Dec 8 22:09:34 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:prob. so

Mon Dec 8 22:09:57 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:might not when they saw your type of buissness

Mon Dec 8 22:10:26 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:They might call their buddies at the DEP

Mon Dec 8 22:10:26 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How strong a % of acid do you use

Mon Dec 8 22:10:31 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:they dont check every farmer that order's fertilizer

Mon Dec 8 22:11:14 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I think it has 30% HF and i dont what the remainder of it has.

Mon Dec 8 22:11:32 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:It might be on landa's site

Mon Dec 8 22:11:53 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i might try sunbrite for my next batch of acid

Mon Dec 8 22:12:12 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i'm paying $450 per 55 gal of acid

Mon Dec 8 22:12:32 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Delivered?

Mon Dec 8 22:12:48 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i also wash a truck in 20 min and get $45 per truck.

Mon Dec 8 22:13:04 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:no unless i pay an extra $50

Mon Dec 8 22:13:16 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:What type of truck?

Mon Dec 8 22:13:22 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:my land dealer makes his own brew. - Orders from someone else adds something puts his label on it raises the price and sells it as his own.

Mon Dec 8 22:13:29 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:dump truck's

Mon Dec 8 22:13:38 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:they all do that

Mon Dec 8 22:14:02 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:he prob add's eather

Mon Dec 8 22:14:26 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:How many do you wash a day?

Mon Dec 8 22:14:30 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:HF is some really really bad stuff

Mon Dec 8 22:14:38 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:he charges $300. a drum it is good stuff

Mon Dec 8 22:14:59 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i wash weekend's only and wash about 30

Mon Dec 8 22:15:19 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Part time?

Mon Dec 8 22:15:34 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:sometime's less, sometime's more 1 helper

Mon Dec 8 22:16:04 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:yea,part time. Im a union glazier right now

Mon Dec 8 22:16:36 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:Ron iare you the one that uses roller pumps

Mon Dec 8 22:16:44 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Why don't you wash full time?

Mon Dec 8 22:16:50 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:I dont have the disapline to work full time for myself

Mon Dec 8 22:17:21 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:I understand

Mon Dec 8 22:17:22 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i start to mess around to much and winter's are a killer

Mon Dec 8 22:17:43 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:me to till the bills are due

Mon Dec 8 22:18:10 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Winter can be tough

Mon Dec 8 22:18:11 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:i like to wash but night's and weekend's all the time suck

Mon Dec 8 22:18:32 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:with truck's you can never miss a week

Mon Dec 8 22:18:53 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:speaking of bills - I need to go to bed so I can pay a few !

Mon Dec 8 22:18:59 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:the next week your twice as screwed

Mon Dec 8 22:19:09 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Msg:see ya!

Mon Dec 8 22:19:13 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:bye

Mon Dec 8 22:19:14 2003:TMcCulla [0/] Logout:_

Mon Dec 8 22:19:16 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:im going too be good and good nite

Mon Dec 8 22:19:33 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:bye all

Mon Dec 8 22:19:39 2003:Cmobilepower [0/] Msg:Good night I am going too

Mon Dec 8 22:19:45 2003:RonP [0/] Msg:this was cool, i'll do it again

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Mon Dec 8 22:20:06 2003:Stan [0/] Msg:was fun night

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Mon Dec 8 22:26:51 2003:oneness [0/] Msg:Well...I suppose I am too late!!!

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Mon Dec 8 22:56:56 2003:Aplus [0/] Msg:anybody here?

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