Avoid mixing these together!

[Beth n Rod]

The following outlines common cleaning agents, their hazards, and safety precautions:

CLEANING AGENT POSSIBLE HAZARDS SAFETY MEASURES

Ammonia
- can cause severe eye and lung irritation.
- if mixed with bleach, can form poisonous chlorine gas.
- use in a well ventilated area.
- do not mix with bleach.
- wear eye protection.

Bleach
- can produce a poisonous gas if mixed with other cleaners
- never mix with toilet cleaners or ammonia
- wear gloves & eye protection.

Toilet/Drain Cleaners & Lye (Lye: also known as Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide)
- can cause serious burns.
- wear gloves and avoid skin contact.
- never mix with bleach.
- protect eyes from possible splashes.

[One Tough Pressure]

Looking at the MSDS for Ultra Clorox, it lists Sodium Hydroxide as an ingredient. Where did this info come from, I would like a confirmation.


Toilet/Drain Cleaners & Lye (Lye: also known as Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide)
- can cause serious burns.
- wear gloves and avoid skin contact.
- never mix with bleach.
- protect eyes from possible splashes.

[Beth n Rod]

http://www.cwip.com/msds_frames.htm
Here's an MSDS for Ultra Clorox.

I got the other info from a chemist's site.
Beth

[Ron Musgraves]

its correct, that caustic,,,unpredictable.........

[Aplus]

Never let brake fluid and chlorine mix. Not that you would normally mix the two, but it is possible that both could be stored on then same shelf. If the two mix, a fire will start.

Naturally I had to see if that was true, so as a test, I poured some of each into a styrofoam coffee cup, and it went up in a blaze in about 2 minutes.

[One Tough Pressure]

Don't give anyone any stupid ideas.

[Beth n Rod]

The owners of this site do not suggest nor do we recommend mixing chemicals together which are known to combust. We advise against it.

[stoppie101]

for best results- do you recomend dot 3 or 4 brake fluid?

[PLD]

I assume you mean granulated pool chlorine? Liquid Cl in just about any concentration should provide enough cooling/buffering to prevent flames. Anyway, I used to do this as a kid for kicks. Put some pool shock in a tin can and add a spoonful of brakefluid. Set it somewhere in the yard at a safe distance, but in plain view of some unsuspecting victim. A few minutes later, dad (quietly mowing the lawn) nearly falls off the lawnmower when he sees a 3ft flame erupting from the bird bath.

Anyway, pre-teen pranks aside. It's extremely combustible, auto igniting, and will become explosive if contained. The time to erupt varies wildly with temperature and in the presence of contaminants. For that matter, compounds of oxidizers (like hypochlorite compounds) and any type of fuel (oil, brake fluid, etc) make a hazardous enerjetic mixture. Most solid rocket fuels are nothing more than an oxidizer suspended in a rubber fuel.

Brake fluid is particularly nasty because it contains sulfur compounds which destabilize the mixture and allow decomposition to begin. This decomposition liberates heat, which causes further decomposition. The ends result is a big hot fire that errupts with no warning.

The moral: Be very aware of oxidizers and their proximity to any type of fuel.

Very partial list
--------------------------
Oxidizers:
sodium/calcium hypochlorite
Acids - oxalic, hydrochloric, HF.
Some ammonia compounds
Almost all nitrate compounds.

Fuels:
Wood, paper, oil, plastic, rags, etc.
i.e. Just about anything. In the presence of a strong oxidizer, even metal will burn as readily as gasoline...

[Beth n Rod]

Alan,
you mean Clorox 'outdoor' Bleach?
It has sodium hydroxide in it along with buffers and oxidizers to stabilize the matrix.

[One Tough Pressure]

I have not seen the msds for Outdoor bleach. I will have to pull the msds that I have, but I think it is for the commercial germicidal ultra clorox. Off for a week so it will not be soon.

[staudend]

Being a 10 year old in a 22 year old's body, I tried putting some granulated pool chlorine with some dot 3 brake fluid. Nothing... I tried some 6 percent bleach and got some wicked bubbling and some heat. Maybe I need to get some better chlorine or something. What's the recipe doolittle?

Nick

[PLD]

Too much brake fluid is a bad thing. Try 2tbsp chlorine & 1/2 tsp brake fluid. Stay clear, it burns like a road flare and puts off toxic fumes.

[seymore]

I learned not to pour the wrong bag of oxalic acid in the bucket of Sodium Hydroxide!

[4000psi]

Originally Posted by Aplus

Never let brake fluid and chlorine mix. Not that you would normally mix the two, but it is possible that both could be stored on then same shelf. If the two mix, a fire will start.

Naturally I had to see if that was true, so as a test, I poured some of each into a styrofoam coffee cup, and it went up in a blaze in about 2 minutes.

Very helpful! Don't want to mix the wrong chemicles...Thanks Aplus