Chat transcript from 2/3/05

[Beth n Rod]

02/3/05 20:00:44 tropicalwave Logs in [24.13.142.208]
02/3/05 20:01:06 scottk Logs in [68.217.208.99]
02/3/05 20:02:15 tidyjetwash Logs in [68.232.88.179]
02/3/05 20:02:50 scottk: what's up ya'll
02/3/05 20:02:58 scottk: where is everyone
02/3/05 20:03:38 tropicalwave: how is everyone doing? I just registered to check it out
02/3/05 20:04:04 scottk: there is usually more people
02/3/05 20:04:08 BethnRod Logs in [63.158.252.68]
02/3/05 20:04:10 Rod Logs in [63.158.252.68]
02/3/05 20:04:18 BethnRod: Hi guys!
02/3/05 20:04:24 tropicalwave: got the grime scene email reminder and remembered to register this time
02/3/05 20:04:28 scottk: hey Rod and Beth
02/3/05 20:04:33 Rod: hello
02/3/05 20:04:34 tropicalwave: hey
02/3/05 20:04:36 scottk: ya'll must be networking
02/3/05 20:04:46 Rod: I am here.
02/3/05 20:04:47 BethnRod: yep
02/3/05 20:05:36 BethnRod: Scott don't you have a round table coming up
02/3/05 20:05:36 Rod: Did we interput anything>?
02/3/05 20:05:50 tropicalwave: noooo
02/3/05 20:05:54 scottk: Saturday
02/3/05 20:06:14 scottk: looks like we'll have about 35 in attendance
02/3/05 20:07:24 BethnRod: very nice!
02/3/05 20:07:45 BethnRod: is that a record for steve?
02/3/05 20:07:50 scottk: I think it'll be a great time for everyone
02/3/05 20:08:05 scottk: i think it is a record
02/3/05 20:08:15 BethnRod: cool! Take pictures.
02/3/05 20:08:26 BethnRod: And please give him our best.
02/3/05 20:08:52 BethnRod: hey paul are you coming to the round table up here on the 12th?
02/3/05 20:08:54 scottk: i'll do my best to get pics for all to see
02/3/05 20:09:56 BethnRod: wasn't sure if we would have chat tonight or not....
02/3/05 20:10:08 Rod Leaves Subroom
02/3/05 20:10:31 scottk: why is that?
02/3/05 20:10:54 BethnRod: well....one day soon the site will be closed for just a little while...untill....viola!
02/3/05 20:12:03 BethnRod: you have to wait to see what's coming soon.
02/3/05 20:12:47 scottk: not fair Beth I'm considerably less that a patient man
02/3/05 20:12:48 Rod: So whats the topic ?
02/3/05 20:13:14 BethnRod: topic? how about spring! as in I can't wait!
02/3/05 20:13:50 BethnRod: scott do you peek into your christmas presents before it is time to unwrap them?
02/3/05 20:14:33 scottk: i just unwrap them...the wife hides them in someone elses house til christmas day
02/3/05 20:15:43 BethnRod: Don't worry it sholdn't be too long
02/3/05 20:16:58 Rod: Cabin fever got their tongues....
02/3/05 20:17:07 Rod: wasssuuupppp!!!!!
02/3/05 20:17:26 Rod: u gy's no speek ing
02/3/05 20:18:09 scottk: we have been couped up for 2 days becuase of rain...i had to push a roof clean and housewash off til tomorrow
02/3/05 20:18:39 Rod: I hear you, weather here has been wreaking havoc with our schedules too.
02/3/05 20:19:03 Rod: had a large project moved to next week due to snow today
02/3/05 20:19:29 scottk: we'll finish it in the AM and them we have a thousand errands to run so we'llbe ready for the meeting Sat
02/3/05 20:20:27 BethnRod: that reminds me pwna has not sent our round table kit yet. I need to call them tomorrow.
02/3/05 20:22:10 BethnRod: scott - do you have any guest speakers for your event saturday?
02/3/05 20:22:18 scottk: i have to pick up some stuff from a local vendor and we have to set up the place we are going after Hooters
02/3/05 20:22:33 BethnRod: where are you going?
02/3/05 20:22:48 scottk: Steve is going to demo quickbooks and some of his chems
02/3/05 20:23:07 BethnRod: sounds fun!
02/3/05 20:23:17 scottk: a few guys are bringing their rigs
02/3/05 20:23:42 BethnRod: that's always a winner too. hope you have warm weather. it sure helps.
02/3/05 20:24:01 scottk: i'm hoping 1 of teh Fl guys will do a roof cleaning demo with the set up they use
02/3/05 20:24:30 Rod: Demos are a great event at these rt's
02/3/05 20:24:44 scottk: we are supposed to have temps around 65 Sat
02/3/05 20:25:04 BethnRod: you lucky dogs!
02/3/05 20:25:28 scottk: it beats the heck out of rainy and 39 like it's been since Tues
02/3/05 20:25:49 BethnRod: Ha! we had snow today.
02/3/05 20:25:58 tidyjetwash Disconnects
02/3/05 20:26:22 BethnRod: I wish it would just get warm an stay warm.
02/3/05 20:26:38 scottk: snow.....................eewwwww...we had sleet last week but it only lasted 15 minutes
02/3/05 20:26:57 BethnRod: when do you guys ususally start decks down there, or is it year round?
02/3/05 20:27:53 scottk: we can start them sometime in late March,,,,,,but we do very few
02/3/05 20:28:16 BethnRod: what do you do mainly?
02/3/05 20:30:02 Rod: tropicalwave, anything you'd like to talk about?
02/3/05 20:30:19 BethnRod: *welcome*
02/3/05 20:30:47 scottk: mostly commercial concrete and house/roof washes
02/3/05 20:31:13 tropicalwave: actually, I was just putting together my shurflo tonight....UPS got it here this morning
02/3/05 20:31:16 Rod: I dont like heights! Me stay on the ground where if I fall, my butt aint far! LOL
02/3/05 20:31:36 Rod: gotcha, a new toy
02/3/05 20:31:51 tropicalwave: oh yea...lemme ask a ?
02/3/05 20:31:52 BethnRod: shurflo's rock
02/3/05 20:32:19 Rod: shoot
02/3/05 20:32:40 BethnRod: *whip*
02/3/05 20:33:03 tropicalwave: if I spray oil sealer thru it, how do I clean it out....cleaning a pump up is easy, but how do you clean the pump, wand, gun and 100 feet of hose?
02/3/05 20:33:42 Rod: You can keep spraying till the pump stops sucking, then introduce your clear water into the line...
02/3/05 20:34:18 Rod: What psi is your new pump?
02/3/05 20:34:22 tropicalwave: thought Id have to spray paint thinner thru it or mineral spirits, but that would be flammable
02/3/05 20:34:43 tropicalwave: 1.2 60psi
02/3/05 20:35:01 tropicalwave: ALL viton
02/3/05 20:35:03 Rod: you can use either, expensive but feasible
02/3/05 20:35:16 Rod: the sealer is flammable too
02/3/05 20:35:39 tropicalwave: big sticker on it that says, "not for use with flammable liquids"
02/3/05 20:35:47 tropicalwave: lol, thats true
02/3/05 20:36:37 Rod: I use mine for spraying chems. The size you have is fine for spraying sealer.
02/3/05 20:37:00 tropicalwave: I guess I could use different hoses for stripper chems then change out for the sealer
02/3/05 20:37:20 tropicalwave: Ill spray stripper and acid, but not roof bobs
02/3/05 20:37:29 tropicalwave: ooops, jobs
02/3/05 20:37:46 Rod: you could.
02/3/05 20:38:12 tropicalwave: we dont get the roof problems up here like down south
02/3/05 20:38:21 Rod: are you mounting this or creating a portable setup?
02/3/05 20:39:27 tropicalwave: its gonna be primarily for wood, yes, got a rockin hand truck today, all the nuts n bolts, just need to assemble, get a battery and box
02/3/05 20:40:41 Rod: sounds like a cool set...
02/3/05 20:41:20 tropicalwave: I got the 1/4" barbs and 1/4' line...Im hoping I dont regret not getting the 3/8, but 3/8 seems to big for sealer
02/3/05 20:41:42 Rod: if I may recommend something?
02/3/05 20:41:59 tropicalwave: go ahead, please..................
02/3/05 20:43:03 Rod: Breco industries makes a male and female connector that when they are unconnected,
02/3/05 20:43:22 Rod: The flow is shut off and allows for change overs that have less mess.
02/3/05 20:43:40 tropicalwave: example ?
02/3/05 20:44:01 Rod: unlike QC's, when you disconnet them, water can still come out...
02/3/05 20:44:15 Rod: In these nothing can come out, the valve shuts .
02/3/05 20:44:20 tropicalwave: I see, like a ball valve ?
02/3/05 20:44:31 Rod: without the ball, it is spring loaded.
02/3/05 20:45:01 tropicalwave: where do I put that? at the pump before the hose or inline somewhere?
02/3/05 20:45:15 Rod: both.
02/3/05 20:45:22 shadow Logs in [151.213.151.143]
02/3/05 20:45:32 BethnRod: hi shadow
02/3/05 20:45:37 Rod: before and after the pump, and on each end of the line you are using.
02/3/05 20:45:49 Rod: oops, after the pump only
02/3/05 20:45:51 shadow: sorry i'm late
02/3/05 20:46:01 Rod: hello shadow
02/3/05 20:46:20 Rod: then on the connections where your gun is.
02/3/05 20:46:35 BethnRod: Hey shadow, what's your name and where are you from?
02/3/05 20:46:40 shadow: for those of u that don't know i'm new to the biz.
02/3/05 20:46:52 tropicalwave: so i would be able to pretty much be able to dismantle the whole setup and trap whatever liquid was still in there
02/3/05 20:47:04 Rod: exactly
02/3/05 20:47:04 shadow: mike sweerin jefferson. ga
02/3/05 20:47:16 Rod: welcome to the biz shadow...
02/3/05 20:47:19 BethnRod: :) Ah! Hi mike!
02/3/05 20:47:31 shadow: hi
02/3/05 20:47:55 BethnRod: Mike you should go to Scott's round table on saturday
02/3/05 20:48:17 shadow: i have somethings to run by u guys on my first setup
02/3/05 20:48:22 tropicalwave: I hear alot of folks talking about problems priming the pump, should I put a sqweeze bulb in line or is it not gonna be a problem?
02/3/05 20:48:29 shadow: this sat.
02/3/05 20:48:47 BethnRod: yes. Hey scott....you still reading?
02/3/05 20:48:59 shadow: where's it at again
02/3/05 20:49:07 BethnRod: *whip* scott?
02/3/05 20:49:11 scottk: yep...
02/3/05 20:49:14 Rod: you can get one at a marine supply store, they will help...but...they can also seize up if you dont keep the system wet.
02/3/05 20:49:22 BethnRod: Mike wants to know about this saturday
02/3/05 20:50:26 scottk: Albany Ga. Sat Feb 5th 11 am Hooter of Albany
02/3/05 20:50:30 tropicalwave: jeesh, sounds like its gonna be a tweak here and there for awhile...but thats ok, have about 2 months before its warm enough here
02/3/05 20:50:48 shadow: i'll try to make it
02/3/05 20:51:01 Rod: it is, but you'll be glad you did once you see how easy it makes things...
02/3/05 20:51:10 shadow: i'm closer to atlanta
02/3/05 20:51:27 scottk: we have several guys comiong down from Atl
02/3/05 20:51:28 Rod: worked on your wood techniques lately?
02/3/05 20:52:12 tropicalwave: to cold and snowy
02/3/05 20:52:25 shadow: can i go over a few things with u guys about the unit i'm looking at
02/3/05 20:52:52 Rod: sure
02/3/05 20:53:54 shadow: is $12,000 to much to spend for my firts unit
02/3/05 20:54:16 Rod: just the unit? or complete with reels and tank?
02/3/05 20:54:27 BethnRod: what are you getting for 12K
02/3/05 20:55:37 shadow: it 8gpm hot water witha 525 tank and 24in steel eagle on a 2 axle trailer
02/3/05 20:56:09 Rod: not that it matter, just curious, what brand?
02/3/05 20:56:28 shadow: i got this price frooom ga, chem
02/3/05 20:56:33 BethnRod: new or used
02/3/05 20:56:44 BethnRod: if used how many hours on the machine
02/3/05 20:56:48 shadow: hydrotek
02/3/05 20:57:04 BethnRod: we use hydrotek also
02/3/05 20:57:09 shadow: with a 25hp briggs
02/3/05 20:57:13 Rod: where are you located? I could get you a better deal with the person that sold us ours...
02/3/05 20:57:25 BethnRod: one gun or two?
02/3/05 20:57:28 shadow: jefferson ga
02/3/05 20:57:34 shadow: 2
02/3/05 20:57:35 Rod: too far south
02/3/05 20:57:56 BethnRod: Mike call Tom Vogel
02/3/05 20:58:01 Rod: great unit, got ours for 7k plus extras.
02/3/05 20:58:15 shadow: who's that
02/3/05 20:58:31 BethnRod: phone is 1-866-455-1293
02/3/05 20:58:45 BethnRod: Tom owns ACR products
02/3/05 20:58:54 BethnRod: he's a hydrotek dealer
02/3/05 20:59:09 Rod: no trailer though.
02/3/05 20:59:25 BethnRod: if you can save a few K on the deal it is worth looking into
02/3/05 20:59:48 BethnRod: tell him Beth & Rod sent you please.
02/3/05 20:59:52 shadow: i got a friend that is a trailer dealer so thats ok
02/3/05 21:00:06 shadow: i will do that
02/3/05 21:00:06 scottk: i built our set up for under 8K by doing it myself
02/3/05 21:00:42 tropicalwave: Beth N Rod, are the F series wood products on sale thru the 5th like the HD and EFC ??
02/3/05 21:01:01 BethnRod: No. Just the ESI products.
02/3/05 21:01:20 tropicalwave: I figured, thought Id take a shot though
02/3/05 21:01:33 Rod: scott, good way to go if you have the know.
02/3/05 21:01:36 shadow: with me being new i want to buy my first one then after that i can build the rest
02/3/05 21:02:00 scottk: that was with both hose reels,tanks,16" surface cleaner.48" wand and gun.250ft of pressure hose.200 ft filler hose
02/3/05 21:02:16 scottk: Mike this was our first
02/3/05 21:02:40 BethnRod: Tom is a great guy. Can't go wrong with him.
02/3/05 21:02:52 shadow: really how many gpm
02/3/05 21:03:14 scottk: 5.5....i just didn't see the need for anything bigger
02/3/05 21:03:15 shadow: and is 8 gpm to much
02/3/05 21:03:26 shadow: for me
02/3/05 21:03:47 Rod: not if you have a tank.
02/3/05 21:03:53 BethnRod: 8gpm is not too much if you run two wands.
02/3/05 21:03:58 shadow: where is tom out of
02/3/05 21:04:00 Rod: 8gpm and 2 guns is a great set up
02/3/05 21:04:09 scottk: it isn't too much if you will benefit from it.
02/3/05 21:04:11 Rod: PA
02/3/05 21:04:17 BethnRod: right.
02/3/05 21:04:26 BethnRod: our first hot unit was 1 gun.
02/3/05 21:04:43 shadow: did you out grow is fast
02/3/05 21:04:59 shadow: it fast
02/3/05 21:05:05 BethnRod: our very first machine....ready for a laugh? a used, refurbished cold unit 2500psi
02/3/05 21:05:16 scottk: Mike what you will find is most companies run within the 5gpm area
02/3/05 21:05:25 BethnRod: no we still have it.
02/3/05 21:05:35 BethnRod: we added a truck and got another machine
02/3/05 21:05:36 scottk: and they are very fast and successful with them
02/3/05 21:06:02 BethnRod: 5gpm is a good one.
02/3/05 21:06:22 scottk: we have a Largo amchine and have been very happy with it
02/3/05 21:06:28 scottk: machine
02/3/05 21:07:35 shadow: we will have at least two guys working on the machine at a time so two wands makes sence to us right
02/3/05 21:07:45 shadow: since to us
02/3/05 21:07:53 Rod: doubles your productivity
02/3/05 21:08:07 shadow: so with that siad is 8 gpm better?
02/3/05 21:08:28 Rod: for that reason yes...
02/3/05 21:08:51 shadow: also i was wondering if any of you have a sample of a maintance agreement for a comercial account
02/3/05 21:08:59 Rod: you may want to consider renting or purchasing a meter for using fire hydrant water to refill
02/3/05 21:09:25 shadow: i am also in need of a final name for the bus any ideas
02/3/05 21:09:29 Rod: depends on the type of manitenance
02/3/05 21:09:42 scottk: if you will use it all the time...it would be,however,you'll find that with a 2 person crew it helps to have somoene free to pull hoses and premix chems
02/3/05 21:09:53 shadow: monthly bi anual quarterly?
02/3/05 21:10:01 shadow: what other types might i need
02/3/05 21:10:07 Rod: again, depends...
02/3/05 21:10:25 shadow: commercial
02/3/05 21:10:29 Rod: wood, annual clean and recoat.
02/3/05 21:10:55 Rod: comm...quarterly
02/3/05 21:11:00 shadow: no more along the lines of surface cleaning on sidewalks lots and the like
02/3/05 21:11:00 BethnRod: Mike, call me on the phone on the name thing....I have several good ones tucked up my sleeve.
02/3/05 21:11:19 shadow: will do
02/3/05 21:12:06 shadow: we have a lot of new commercial industrial going in around us right now
02/3/05 21:12:18 Rod: scott, good suggestions, the crew seems to work great with a dual setup. both spray at the same time and then wash the same way
02/3/05 21:12:25 shadow: an i would like to capaplitize on it
02/3/05 21:12:53 Rod: plus, they premix the neutralizer to be ready when they are for it.
02/3/05 21:13:13 scottk: doing wood it would be great to have 2 guns
02/3/05 21:13:49 scottk: we do more commercial concrete...drive thrus etc than wood so i like the extra eyes and hands for hoses and chems
02/3/05 21:14:33 shadow: so u got one guy usingthe gun and the other working the hoses
02/3/05 21:14:39 scottk: yes
02/3/05 21:15:02 shadow: like the side line crews at football games
02/3/05 21:15:12 scottk: the other guy in my case is a girl/woman(the wife)
02/3/05 21:15:24 shadow: what if u had a three man crew
02/3/05 21:15:35 shadow: we may us a friend for bigger jobs
02/3/05 21:15:50 Rod: we used a 3 man crew, 2 guys spraying, 1 mixing and moving the hoses...
02/3/05 21:15:53 BethnRod: Women rock ;)
02/3/05 21:16:00 scottk: then you would benefit from a 2 gun set up
02/3/05 21:16:29 scottk: she'll work circles around most men
02/3/05 21:17:02 Rod: I wish we could get more women interested in this field, they work really well since it is creative...
02/3/05 21:17:12 shadow: any pics of rigs avail?
02/3/05 21:17:34 scottk: if you are goingto be a 2 man crew mainly i would go with 5gpm and add a 3000 psi/4gpm cold amchine for teh times you add a 3rd person
02/3/05 21:18:04 scottk: therre are some pic sof our on teh cleaner network
02/3/05 21:18:38 shadow: 6gpm 525 tank hot water 100' hose wand 20 hp briggs 60 hrs 6000.00 good deal or no?
02/3/05 21:18:44 Rod: beth gets down with the wand as well as any guy...
02/3/05 21:18:45 scottk: wow i can't type
02/3/05 21:18:59 scottk: angela loves running the surface cleaner
02/3/05 21:19:06 BethnRod: me too!
02/3/05 21:19:16 BethnRod: surface cleaner are fun
02/3/05 21:19:27 BethnRod: I also like sealing decks
02/3/05 21:19:40 scottk: how old is the machine and hours on it Mike?
02/3/05 21:19:52 shadow: instant gratification is always better than waiting to see the fruits of ur labor
02/3/05 21:19:58 shadow: 60 hrs 1 yr old
02/3/05 21:19:59 scottk: duh...i see now
02/3/05 21:20:09 scottk: with trailer?
02/3/05 21:20:17 shadow: yes trailer incl
02/3/05 21:20:31 scottk: hose reels or any other accessories?
02/3/05 21:20:32 shadow: would have to make a trip to pu
02/3/05 21:20:50 shadow: no reels no real other acces
02/3/05 21:21:05 shadow: fly out of town and tow back
02/3/05 21:21:22 scottk: where would you pick up?
02/3/05 21:21:54 shadow: az
02/3/05 21:21:57 shadow: from ga
02/3/05 21:22:11 shadow: i have family in az
02/3/05 21:22:20 shadow: woiuld only have to pay for gas homw
02/3/05 21:22:23 shadow: home
02/3/05 21:22:46 shadow: and bonus i would get to make the cross country trip with my grandma
02/3/05 21:22:49 scottk: if you could get it for $5k i say maybe
02/3/05 21:23:00 BethnRod: I'm with scott
02/3/05 21:23:09 BethnRod: You can do better
02/3/05 21:23:14 shadow: where
02/3/05 21:23:29 shadow: i will call tom but he is in pa and im in ga
02/3/05 21:23:49 BethnRod: and PA is closer than AZ
02/3/05 21:23:55 scottk: i promise you can build a 5.5gpm skid rig for around 8K all new...with the accessories
02/3/05 21:23:58 shadow: but it is warmer in az
02/3/05 21:24:03 scottk: it's not as hard as you would think
02/3/05 21:24:04 shadow: no snow on the way
02/3/05 21:24:15 scottk: and if it breaks you kow how to fix it
02/3/05 21:24:22 scottk: know
02/3/05 21:25:37 shadow: y not spend 3k+ and get a 8 gpm machine with two guns
02/3/05 21:25:56 shadow: i owe i owe so off to work i go
02/3/05 21:26:28 scottk: Rod how mcuh is a replacement pump for your 8gpm machine??
02/3/05 21:26:32 scottk: much
02/3/05 21:26:47 shadow: and a 5.5 gpm?
02/3/05 21:27:36 shadow: i am prone ot breaking anvil making machines with a push tac
02/3/05 21:28:25 shadow: am i alone here?
02/3/05 21:28:40 Rod: 8gpm around 700, 5.5 around 400
02/3/05 21:28:54 shadow: dollars or yen
02/3/05 21:29:00 scottk: dolllars
02/3/05 21:29:07 BethnRod: pesos! ;)
02/3/05 21:29:10 scottk: lol
02/3/05 21:29:39 shadow: who makes the best hot pumps
02/3/05 21:29:53 shadow: cat is what i have been told
02/3/05 21:29:54 Rod: Cat
02/3/05 21:29:55 scottk: water cannon sell the 5.5 for around $329 plumbed
02/3/05 21:30:24 BethnRod: who makes the best engines?
02/3/05 21:30:45 scottk: Honda...but we run a Briggs
02/3/05 21:30:54 shadow: cost?
02/3/05 21:30:59 shadow: or just conv
02/3/05 21:31:20 BethnRod: we like Hondas on our cold units
02/3/05 21:31:22 scottk: conv....i can replace a briggs for what i can rebuild a honda for
02/3/05 21:31:25 shadow: i was told that at higher hp it starts to make less of a diff
02/3/05 21:31:35 BethnRod: we like Kohler on our hot units
02/3/05 21:31:40 shadow: y
02/3/05 21:31:57 shadow: any diesel?
02/3/05 21:32:11 BethnRod: yep. hot units will burn diesel
02/3/05 21:32:18 shadow: rpm too low?
02/3/05 21:32:25 BethnRod: for the burner
02/3/05 21:32:31 BethnRod: engine is gas
02/3/05 21:32:35 shadow: for the engines i mean
02/3/05 21:32:38 Rod: unleaded...
02/3/05 21:32:47 Rod: burneres use diesel
02/3/05 21:32:54 BethnRod: or kerosene
02/3/05 21:33:03 shadow: i know why not use a deisel engine for the pump
02/3/05 21:33:19 shadow: last longer
02/3/05 21:33:46 shadow: inital cost higer but lower maintance and lower cost to run
02/3/05 21:33:53 scottk: would require a liquid cooling system to make it run effcient
02/3/05 21:33:56 Rod: gas is the standard for small engines
02/3/05 21:34:38 scottk: there are some british made units that have liquid cool but they are very pricey
02/3/05 21:35:26 shadow: i am familiar with deutz and lambardi
02/3/05 21:35:31 shadow: both air cooled
02/3/05 21:35:47 shadow: just a question not trying to reinvent the wheel
02/3/05 21:36:02 scottk: i have wondered the same thing
02/3/05 21:36:26 Rod: espec has a unit witha lombardi...over kill for our purposes
02/3/05 21:36:53 shadow: whats the specs
02/3/05 21:37:11 Rod: espec = envirospec
02/3/05 21:37:35 shadow: if it can run 8 guns i'm there
02/3/05 21:37:40 scottk: is it the Iron Horse Rod?
02/3/05 21:37:40 shadow: lol
02/3/05 21:37:59 Rod: one of them yes
02/3/05 21:38:26 scottk: sweet machines...too bad mr allison has such an attitude sometimes
02/3/05 21:38:29 Rod: 6-10k psi
02/3/05 21:38:32 shadow: my friend scott at nomo can build one with a ram jet 350 chevy small block
02/3/05 21:38:42 BethnRod: lol you got that right Scott!
02/3/05 21:38:51 Rod: now there you go...car power
02/3/05 21:39:10 shadow: 365 hp and 415 ft/lbs of torque
02/3/05 21:39:20 shadow: he had one in his jeep
02/3/05 21:39:35 scottk: i don't want to wash with it i want to race it................lol
02/3/05 21:40:12 Rod: if you build a pressure washer out of your cars engine...
02/3/05 21:40:12 shadow: now who wants to bid on the runways at the airport?
02/3/05 21:40:40 Rod: diff equip. altogether
02/3/05 21:40:46 BethnRod: yep
02/3/05 21:41:05 BethnRod: we have seen the deicing machines...
02/3/05 21:41:09 shadow: better viz and fewer twin jets leaving the runway on landing
02/3/05 21:41:34 shadow: if we build it they will come?
02/3/05 21:41:45 Rod: what?
02/3/05 21:41:58 shadow: just kidding
02/3/05 21:42:01 BethnRod Disconnects
02/3/05 21:42:33 shadow: goodbye all for the good old south of the usa
02/3/05 21:42:34 BethnRod Logs in [63.158.252.68]
02/3/05 21:42:45 shadow: may be not just yeet
02/3/05 21:42:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net Logs in [66.184.158.2]
02/3/05 21:42:56 shadow: wtz up jake
02/3/05 21:43:00 jakobe75@earthlink.net: hello room jake here
02/3/05 21:43:05 BethnRod: Hi Jake
02/3/05 21:43:05 Rod: hi jake
02/3/05 21:43:07 jakobe75@earthlink.net: ola senor
02/3/05 21:43:20 shadow: everyone jake is my biz part.
02/3/05 21:43:27 Rod: good to meet you
02/3/05 21:43:29 jakobe75@earthlink.net: oi mate
02/3/05 21:43:37 shadow: he is the brains not the size of the operation
02/3/05 21:43:46 scottk: Mike try to make it down to Albany/Sylveter on Saturday...there will be a couple rigs here
02/3/05 21:43:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net: the pleasure is all mine
02/3/05 21:44:08 shadow: scott wrote that
02/3/05 21:44:10 jakobe75@earthlink.net: jsut working on websites right now
02/3/05 21:44:23 BethnRod: Ah yes...Jake is a web designer?
02/3/05 21:44:29 jakobe75@earthlink.net: yes i am
02/3/05 21:44:34 shadow: yeah if anyone needs a great web site give jake a jingle
02/3/05 21:44:36 BethnRod: Nice to meet a fellow geek
02/3/05 21:44:51 jakobe75@earthlink.net: yup i host ..script...design..you name it
02/3/05 21:44:52 BethnRod: lol I build them too
02/3/05 21:44:53 shadow: high five beth
02/3/05 21:45:06 Rod: *slap*
02/3/05 21:45:09 shadow: ch out nomooffroad.com
02/3/05 21:45:23 jakobe75@earthlink.net: i concentrate on artwork and dynamic scripting
02/3/05 21:45:33 shadow: that is a site of jakes and a possible business part fof the future
02/3/05 21:45:37 BethnRod: I have been building sites for contractors for a few years now.
02/3/05 21:45:43 jakobe75@earthlink.net: right on
02/3/05 21:46:31 scottk: i built our......gawd tehy are so lame
02/3/05 21:46:34 shadow: anyone doing any business that can be directly related to their site?
02/3/05 21:46:34 jakobe75@earthlink.net: many people dont know how powerful a tool a website can be
02/3/05 21:46:41 scottk: :p
02/3/05 21:46:49 Rod: agreed
02/3/05 21:46:56 Rod: very powerful
02/3/05 21:47:08 BethnRod: I built our site back in 99
02/3/05 21:47:10 shadow: by the way jake when is our site going to be done ?
02/3/05 21:47:25 jakobe75@earthlink.net: we are trying toput together a power washing service now and the site i have designed for it is soo smart
02/3/05 21:47:42 jakobe75@earthlink.net: soon i will finalize the desing tonite or tom.
02/3/05 21:47:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net: just have to add content
02/3/05 21:47:57 scottk: teh web addy for the bellsouth site we have is so long it takes 2 business cards top fit it all on
02/3/05 21:48:04 shadow: beth gave me a conn for a better deal on the unit
02/3/05 21:48:23 shadow: but he is in pa
02/3/05 21:48:56 jakobe75@earthlink.net: we are integrating client details and scheduling and some other top secret stuff
02/3/05 21:49:14 BethnRod: lol you go Jake ;)
02/3/05 21:49:22 jakobe75@earthlink.net: all is maintianable form one control panel you can even update it form your cell phone
02/3/05 21:49:24 shadow: giive jake a call and he can set u up a new domain name and make it shorter and cut ur business card cost in half
02/3/05 21:49:52 shadow: he knows where to have cards printed cheap too
02/3/05 21:50:19 shadow: and talk to him about any flyers that u may need printed or designed
02/3/05 21:50:22 jakobe75@earthlink.net: yup very cheap and i got a new ocntact today i am going to try out ..they are here in atlanta so it will save $$ on shipping
02/3/05 21:50:31 BethnRod: I do that too... ;)
02/3/05 21:50:57 jakobe75@earthlink.net: usually the shipping is what kills you on printed material...2500 card stock flyers are heavy
02/3/05 21:50:59 shadow: what is the name orf ur site beth
02/3/05 21:51:02 shadow: of
02/3/05 21:51:11 BethnRod: www.thegrimescene.com
02/3/05 21:51:16 jakobe75@earthlink.net: duh
02/3/05 21:51:16 BethnRod: www.seedirtrun.com
02/3/05 21:51:26 BethnRod: and anout a dozen others
02/3/05 21:51:30 shadow: i like that name
02/3/05 21:51:33 BethnRod: oops about 12 others
02/3/05 21:51:47 BethnRod: Like I said, call me on the biz name.
02/3/05 21:51:52 jakobe75@earthlink.net: we havent chossen a name yet
02/3/05 21:51:53 BethnRod: I can help
02/3/05 21:52:17 jakobe75@earthlink.net: so the site now has no logo i cant set it live until we pick a name
02/3/05 21:52:20 shadow: scott said dumb and dumber
02/3/05 21:52:28 shadow: beth ur in ny right
02/3/05 21:52:33 BethnRod: Md
02/3/05 21:52:50 shadow: anything north of atl is all the same right
02/3/05 21:53:01 BethnRod: time wise?
02/3/05 21:53:18 shadow: no masin dixon line moved south
02/3/05 21:53:21 shadow: mason
02/3/05 21:53:26 BethnRod: we are south of PA
02/3/05 21:53:44 shadow: ok we can cut u some slackk
02/3/05 21:54:03 BethnRod: *slap* ya better...
02/3/05 21:54:08 shadow: ok ok ok
02/3/05 21:54:11 BethnRod: lol
02/3/05 21:54:41 shadow: scott is taking over for shadow
02/3/05 21:54:42 BethnRod: cool 4x4 forums jake
02/3/05 21:54:50 shadow: jake shadow is getting readl to call u
02/3/05 21:55:15 scottk: another Scott.....
02/3/05 21:55:29 shadow: yeah jake did a great job on my site and it has only been up since dec
02/3/05 21:55:39 shadow: yep
02/3/05 21:55:48 shadow: and also scott k
02/3/05 21:55:56 shadow: scott kimbell
02/3/05 21:56:05 scottk: scott karvonen here
02/3/05 21:56:05 BethnRod: so shadow is mike and an other scott too?
02/3/05 21:56:07 shadow: is that confusing enough
02/3/05 21:56:28 BethnRod: yep....how many others live in there with you ;)
02/3/05 21:56:31 shadow: yep i am thinking about getting into thei with jake and mike
02/3/05 21:56:36 shadow: this with
02/3/05 21:56:46 jakobe75@earthlink.net: heres a link to a smaple image of the site
02/3/05 21:56:47 shadow: too many
02/3/05 21:56:49 scottk: lol....boy that have you snowballed
02/3/05 21:56:53 scottk: joking
02/3/05 21:56:58 shadow: this is the warward home for the lost
02/3/05 21:57:03 jakobe75@earthlink.net: http://www.nomooffroad.com/wash/test.html
02/3/05 21:57:38 scottk: how old are you guys?
02/3/05 21:57:38 shadow: what is that jake
02/3/05 21:57:45 BethnRod Disconnects
02/3/05 21:57:48 Rod Disconnects
02/3/05 21:57:51 shadow: i am the oldest at 34
02/3/05 21:57:58 jakobe75@earthlink.net: it sis a link to a sample image of the power wash site
02/3/05 21:58:06 shadow: cool
02/3/05 21:58:14 shadow: i will check it out
02/3/05 21:58:23 shadow: is it the same as the other night
02/3/05 21:58:36 BethnRod Logs in [63.159.49.46]
02/3/05 21:58:46 BethnRod: ok please share that link again
02/3/05 21:59:06 jakobe75@earthlink.net: the link is to an a screenshot of my work so far just a jpeg of the site no buttons work yet
02/3/05 21:59:10 Rod Logs in [63.159.49.46]
02/3/05 21:59:14 Rod: sorry, we stepped out for a smooch * Moofie got us too...
02/3/05 21:59:21 Rod: lol
02/3/05 21:59:30 shadow: that was a wuickie
02/3/05 21:59:35 shadow: quickie
02/3/05 21:59:49 shadow: hahaha
02/3/05 22:00:02 jakobe75@earthlink.net: me huh okay
02/3/05 22:00:38 jakobe75@earthlink.net: http://www.nomooffroad.com/wash/test.html
02/3/05 22:00:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net: k goota go be back soon
02/3/05 22:00:56 BethnRod: do you mind feedback?
02/3/05 22:01:07 shadow: not at all
02/3/05 22:01:14 shadow: we would welcome it
02/3/05 22:01:15 BethnRod: too busy
02/3/05 22:01:26 shadow: wjat do u mean
02/3/05 22:01:31 shadow: what
02/3/05 22:01:41 BethnRod: too many graphic competing for your focus
02/3/05 22:01:55 shadow: k we will take that into account
02/3/05 22:01:59 BethnRod: use fewer...
02/3/05 22:02:52 BethnRod: just my two cents. ;) lots of good stuff up there tho
02/3/05 22:03:00 shadow: kewl
02/3/05 22:03:16 shadow: do u like overall though
02/3/05 22:03:30 BethnRod: it has potential.
02/3/05 22:03:41 shadow: thanks
02/3/05 22:03:53 BethnRod: right now at first glance, it looks like a landscapers site
02/3/05 22:04:08 BethnRod: the grass in the middle makes me think lawn care
02/3/05 22:04:38 shadow: we are also offering landscaping and lawn maintance
02/3/05 22:05:01 BethnRod: then in that case, it looks good
02/3/05 22:05:14 shadow: we hope to be a home estitecs one stop shop
02/3/05 22:05:28 shadow: can't spell estitics
02/3/05 22:05:37 shadow: is that right
02/3/05 22:05:52 shadow: where is spell check
02/3/05 22:06:00 BethnRod: I know what you mean ..I think there is an 'h' in there
02/3/05 22:06:01 shadow: jake look that up k
02/3/05 22:06:06 Rod: asthetics?
02/3/05 22:06:14 shadow: that is it
02/3/05 22:06:14 BethnRod: that too
02/3/05 22:06:31 Rod: wierd word
02/3/05 22:06:33 BethnRod: hey I'mm gonna scoot guys. Been a long day
02/3/05 22:06:40 shadow: tha t is why i am not an english teacher
02/3/05 22:06:54 shadow: ok shadow will call u tomorrow
02/3/05 22:06:54 Rod: me too, stay as long as you like...
02/3/05 22:07:01 Rod: g'nite~
02/3/05 22:07:01 BethnRod Logs Out
02/3/05 22:07:05 shadow: thanks we are outie
02/3/05 22:07:08 Rod Logs Out
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02/3/05 22:09:33 jakobe75@earthlink.net Disconnects
02/3/05 22:09:33 scottk: I'm out guys...Jake you and Mike need to come to Albany for teh roundtable meeting I'm hosting...Hooters of Albany 11am saturday Feb 5th
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