Chat transcript from 2/17/05

[Beth n Rod]

02/17/05 17:06:00 Sky__Clean Logs in [65.94.233.85]
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02/17/05 17:38:32 Skyclean: can anyone in here heep me?
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02/17/05 20:29:26 Quik_Carl Logs in [4.152.213.106]
02/17/05 20:29:58 MikeIN: hey carl
02/17/05 20:30:05 MikeIN: should be some others here soon
02/17/05 20:30:07 Quik_Carl: is there a chat 2nite?
02/17/05 20:30:18 MikeIN: yes
02/17/05 20:30:22 Quik_Carl: hi mike
02/17/05 20:30:26 MikeIN: should start in a few minutes
02/17/05 20:30:31 Quik_Carl: whats the topic
02/17/05 20:30:39 MikeIN: just a few of them a little late getting here
02/17/05 20:30:42 MikeIN: open topic
02/17/05 20:30:44 MikeIN: anything
02/17/05 20:31:08 Jeffrey_Robison Logs in [68.19.120.46]
02/17/05 20:31:08 Quik_Carl: ok thx
02/17/05 20:31:24 Quik_Carl: hey jeff
02/17/05 20:31:42 Jeffrey_Robison: Where'e everybody at
02/17/05 20:31:44 MikeIN: hey jeff
02/17/05 20:31:49 Jeffrey_Robison: Hello
02/17/05 20:31:56 MikeIN: they should be here shortly jeff
02/17/05 20:31:59 Jeffrey_Robison: Is this Carl Stout
02/17/05 20:32:14 Quik_Carl: no
02/17/05 20:32:19 Jeffrey_Robison: sorry
02/17/05 20:32:27 Quik_Carl: no problem
02/17/05 20:32:29 Jeffrey_Robison: still cold as hell in IN
02/17/05 20:32:37 Jeffrey_Robison: Where you from Carl
02/17/05 20:32:41 Quik_Carl: cold here in VA
02/17/05 20:33:05 Jeffrey_Robison Logs Out
02/17/05 20:33:09 MikeIN: yeah its cold here, It was wrm one day in the 60's then back to the high 20's and low 30's, someone was playing a joke on us
02/17/05 20:33:27 Quik_Carl: where are you at?
02/17/05 20:33:33 MikeIN: indiana
02/17/05 20:33:47 Quik_Carl: oh i thoght jeff was from IN
02/17/05 20:34:01 MikeIN: is he? cool
02/17/05 20:34:32 Quik_Carl: i dont know
02/17/05 20:34:40 Jeffrey_Robison Logs in [68.19.120.46]
02/17/05 20:34:41 MikeIN: so how long have you been PW?
02/17/05 20:34:45 MikeIN: welcome back Jeff
02/17/05 20:34:56 Quik_Carl: Jeff where u from?
02/17/05 20:35:06 Jeffrey_Robison: Hotlanta, GA
02/17/05 20:35:17 MikeIN: go braves :)
02/17/05 20:35:29 Quik_Carl: thats sunbrite territory
02/17/05 20:35:39 Jeffrey_Robison: Don't even follow the sport
02/17/05 20:35:50 MikeIN: they just had a big roundtable down there for the pwna I believe
02/17/05 20:35:57 Jeffrey_Robison: Yes Sunbrite is about 10 miles from me
02/17/05 20:36:06 Jeffrey_Robison: not big but it was good.
02/17/05 20:36:13 Quik_Carl: what happen to chris detter there?
02/17/05 20:36:30 Quik_Carl: i heard he left
02/17/05 20:36:40 Jeffrey_Robison: he was out before I really got into PW. have heard the name but know nothing
02/17/05 20:37:00 MikeIN: how did the playground cleaning go?
02/17/05 20:37:07 Jeffrey_Robison: easy money
02/17/05 20:37:25 scottk Logs in [68.154.64.172]
02/17/05 20:37:33 Jeffrey_Robison: Booked two more for this weekend. Referalls, meeting with corporate later this week
02/17/05 20:37:34 Quik_Carl: Aint no easy money here in VA
02/17/05 20:37:43 MikeIN: Big Scott :beerchug:
02/17/05 20:37:43 Jeffrey_Robison: BIG Scott in the house.
02/17/05 20:37:58 MikeIN: good job jeff
02/17/05 20:38:11 scottk: what's up
02/17/05 20:38:25 scottk: woof woof
02/17/05 20:38:30 Quik_Carl: hey scott where you from?
02/17/05 20:38:35 Jeffrey_Robison: I hope, not sure how the corporate will go. They just wanted to meet with me.
02/17/05 20:38:38 scottk: south georgia
02/17/05 20:38:59 MikeIN: could lead to a big contract jeff?
02/17/05 20:39:24 scottk: is this the day care centers Jeff?
02/17/05 20:39:27 Jeffrey_Robison: Not sure how big? Maybe just 2x a year for about 30 locations.
02/17/05 20:39:43 MikeIN: but like you said... easy money
02/17/05 20:39:55 Jeffrey_Robison: Yes, did you hear back from your daycares scott
02/17/05 20:40:32 scottk: I have to resubmit the bid...my contact quit or got fired haven't found out which yet
02/17/05 20:40:39 Jeffrey_Robison: Light bleach and a little light rinse. i just need to come up with something to take the black sccuff marks out
02/17/05 20:40:51 scottk: the new director is mich less friendly
02/17/05 20:40:57 scottk: much
02/17/05 20:41:14 MikeIN: try a degreaser?
02/17/05 20:41:27 Jeffrey_Robison: Directors think they rule the world.
02/17/05 20:41:33 scottk: butyl should get them out jeff
02/17/05 20:41:55 Jeffrey_Robison: I was afraid to put anything on too strong, thought it might harm the plastic.
02/17/05 20:42:12 scottk: purple power aded to your normal mix shoudl help alot
02/17/05 20:42:17 scottk: should
02/17/05 20:42:37 Jeffrey_Robison: Anybody ever had a transformer go out on their burner?
02/17/05 20:43:04 scottk: nope....that's why i bought a 120v machine...generator is more reliable
02/17/05 20:43:05 Jeffrey_Robison: How much, I will have to try that stuff out. I was also thinking some gutter zap??
02/17/05 20:43:21 Quik_Carl: i never used hot water
02/17/05 20:43:32 Jeffrey_Robison: When I bought I knew nothing(and still know very little)
02/17/05 20:44:35 Jeffrey_Robison: The generator runs off your motor, correct?
02/17/05 20:45:00 scottk: gutter zap will work...i would add about 3 or 4 cups per 5 gallon mix
02/17/05 20:45:08 Sky__Clean Logs in [65.94.237.82]
02/17/05 20:45:18 MikeIN: hello sky clean
02/17/05 20:45:25 scottk: yes the generator runs off the engine
02/17/05 20:45:31 Sky__Clean: hi everyone
02/17/05 20:45:37 Quik_Carl: hello
02/17/05 20:45:44 Jeffrey_Robison: Looking at another unit that is like that
02/17/05 20:46:19 Sky__Clean: so whats everyone up to 2ight?
02/17/05 20:46:21 Jeffrey_Robison: Mike, sky and carl, are you guys full time?
02/17/05 20:46:34 Quik_Carl: Full time here
02/17/05 20:46:44 Sky__Clean: no yet, I am just leanring, I need all the help!!!!!
02/17/05 20:46:57 MikeIN: if things go well this year like last year, I will be full time within a year. now I am still PT
02/17/05 20:47:03 Sky__Clean: i have not started yet, but hopign to int he next month
02/17/05 20:47:04 Jeffrey_Robison: Sky, where are you from
02/17/05 20:47:08 Sky__Clean: Toronto
02/17/05 20:47:16 Quik_Carl: this is my 6th year
02/17/05 20:47:17 Sky__Clean: where is every1 elese from?
02/17/05 20:47:26 Jeffrey_Robison: Atlanta
02/17/05 20:47:27 MikeIN: indiana
02/17/05 20:47:40 scottk: southwest georgia
02/17/05 20:47:43 Quik_Carl: va
02/17/05 20:47:46 Sky__Clean: Guys, can I ask your opinion?
02/17/05 20:47:55 scottk: shoot
02/17/05 20:47:55 Jeffrey_Robison: fire away
02/17/05 20:47:58 MikeIN: if you think you can handle it? :)
02/17/05 20:48:11 Jeffrey_Robison: YOU can"t handle THE truth!
02/17/05 20:48:18 scottk: lol
02/17/05 20:48:32 MikeIN: did you order the code red?
02/17/05 20:48:43 Sky__Clean: ok i am back
02/17/05 20:48:45 Jeffrey_Robison: code red?
02/17/05 20:48:47 Sky__Clean: I am looking for a machine
02/17/05 20:49:00 MikeIN: what was it called... nm...
02/17/05 20:49:08 Sky__Clean: I was already told to stick with Belt driven machine
02/17/05 20:49:18 Quik_Carl: cold or hot
02/17/05 20:49:23 Sky__Clean: Hot
02/17/05 20:49:34 Quik_Carl: that counts me out
02/17/05 20:49:35 Sky__Clean: what do you guys have
02/17/05 20:49:42 MikeIN: cold
02/17/05 20:49:46 Sky__Clean: why not hot?
02/17/05 20:49:48 Quik_Carl: i have a cold
02/17/05 20:49:50 scottk: Hot
02/17/05 20:49:54 Jeffrey_Robison: Landa 3.8 hot/cold water jet surface cleaner
02/17/05 20:49:56 MikeIN: i dont do much commercial flat work
02/17/05 20:50:06 Quik_Carl: depends on what you wash?
02/17/05 20:50:19 Sky__Clean: i would like to get into fleets (trucks(
02/17/05 20:50:28 Jeffrey_Robison: no help here
02/17/05 20:50:29 Quik_Carl: you need hot then
02/17/05 20:50:39 MikeIN: you want to go for DI water then
02/17/05 20:50:42 scottk: get the hotwater...from what the fleet guys say it's a must
02/17/05 20:50:45 Jeffrey_Robison: scott, you do a lot of flat work
02/17/05 20:50:48 Quik_Carl: i wash decks hoses and driveways only
02/17/05 20:50:56 scottk: we do a fair amount
02/17/05 20:51:09 Sky__Clean: Carl, what do you use for flat work?
02/17/05 20:51:13 Sky__Clean: equipement?
02/17/05 20:51:18 Quik_Carl: i dont do it
02/17/05 20:51:30 Sky__Clean: I mean Jeff
02/17/05 20:51:31 Jeffrey_Robison: I am bidding just washing 3 decks this weekend, not sure what to charge.
02/17/05 20:51:38 MikeIN: Sky, check out a DI system for rinsing if you plan on doing alot of fleet work
02/17/05 20:51:42 scottk: we have a 16" & 30" surface cleaner
02/17/05 20:52:02 Jeffrey_Robison: A landa adjustable water jet
02/17/05 20:52:07 Quik_Carl: have you washed a deck b4?
02/17/05 20:52:10 MikeIN: unless you like drying that is :)
02/17/05 20:52:13 Jeffrey_Robison: I think it is 24"
02/17/05 20:52:19 Jeffrey_Robison: yes but I hated it.
02/17/05 20:52:30 scottk: just washing I would bid them about $.90 a sq ft
02/17/05 20:52:38 Quik_Carl: is it already sealed or what/
02/17/05 20:52:44 Sky__Clean: has the 16, and 30 been efficent for you?
02/17/05 20:52:50 Jeffrey_Robison: I think they are painted and he wants them cleaned so he can paint them agian
02/17/05 20:53:03 scottk: i prefer the 16" on small jobs
02/17/05 20:53:21 scottk: the 30" is great for open areas
02/17/05 20:53:24 Quik_Carl: well be clear with your customer that u are not stripping the deck
02/17/05 20:53:36 Jeffrey_Robison: just cleaning
02/17/05 20:53:37 Sky__Clean: have you guys ever done roofs?>
02/17/05 20:53:56 Jeffrey_Robison: not yet, looking into it.
02/17/05 20:54:10 scottk: Oh painted.....still charge the same......you can use your housewash mix
02/17/05 20:54:11 Quik_Carl: i would charge around 2 a square foot
02/17/05 20:54:32 Jeffrey_Robison: Just to clean, spray and kill the mold?
02/17/05 20:54:47 MikeIN: Sky, I would maybe pick a couple areas to get started in and educate yourself on those first, you dont want to spread yourself to thin offering so many different services when starting.
02/17/05 20:54:49 Sky__Clean: what is DI water guys?
02/17/05 20:55:06 Sky__Clean: good advice
02/17/05 20:55:17 scottk: deionized water...it has all teh impurities removed
02/17/05 20:55:26 Quik_Carl: yes ---you have something against making money
02/17/05 20:55:29 MikeIN: DI = de ionized water, gives you a spot free rinse
02/17/05 20:55:30 Jeffrey_Robison: very good advise. I have only been doing it about a year and am looking into too many different areas
02/17/05 20:55:44 Sky__Clean: how do you achieve that
02/17/05 20:56:19 Sky__Clean: so you dont have to wipe it down?
02/17/05 20:56:34 Jeffrey_Robison: I has 3 decks on one house, plus I will be doing his daycare center. I might be looking at $500.00 jus tfor the decks
02/17/05 20:56:54 BethnRod Logs in [63.159.80.18]
02/17/05 20:57:00 MikeIN: Hey beth :)
02/17/05 20:57:05 BethnRod: hi all.
02/17/05 20:57:12 Quik_Carl: i dont know what size decks they are?
02/17/05 20:57:15 BethnRod: Sorry - pc troubles here.
02/17/05 20:57:18 Quik_Carl: hi beth
02/17/05 20:57:24 BethnRod: hi :)
02/17/05 20:57:28 MikeIN: no problem we started ourselves
02/17/05 20:57:31 scottk: what the sq footage Jeff?
02/17/05 20:57:45 Jeffrey_Robison: Not sure, going to bid Sunday.
02/17/05 20:57:59 Sky__Clean: if you dont use DI water, do you have to wipe it down then?
02/17/05 20:58:17 MikeIN: Sky, the fleet guys I've talked to say you dont really need to dry a car when using DI water, it saves you alot of time
02/17/05 20:58:18 Sky__Clean: hi beth
02/17/05 20:58:29 BethnRod: Hi ! Glad you could make it.
02/17/05 20:58:40 scottk: sky you can add a rinse aid but DI or soft water is the fastest most cost effective way to do it
02/17/05 20:58:54 MikeIN: color change so beth & I dont blend together :)
02/17/05 20:59:06 Sky__Clean: but does DI water cost alot?
02/17/05 20:59:34 MikeIN: the system can be expensive, but if you doing many fleets it will pay for itself in time like anything you buy
02/17/05 20:59:36 Quik_Carl: whats the topic tonite beth
02/17/05 20:59:36 scottk: $.08 a gallon
02/17/05 20:59:53 BethnRod: its open topic. whatever you want to talk about.
02/17/05 21:00:47 scottk: Beth are you making your annoucement in the AM
02/17/05 21:00:54 Sky__Clean: guys I have to take off for about 30 minutes, will you guys still be here?
02/17/05 21:00:55 BethnRod: sometime tomorrow....
02/17/05 21:01:02 Jeffrey_Robison: recovery? anybody do it?
02/17/05 21:01:08 Sky__Clean: I will be back
02/17/05 21:01:28 scottk: i kow a guy with a vaccubroom for sale
02/17/05 21:01:30 scottk: know
02/17/05 21:01:32 MikeIN: Jeff, thats the reason I dont do alot of commercial work, I want to be able to recover when I do and I'm not set up to
02/17/05 21:01:42 Jeffrey_Robison: IN GA
02/17/05 21:01:53 Sky__Clean: how much is the vaccubroom?
02/17/05 21:01:53 scottk: yes
02/17/05 21:01:55 Jeffrey_Robison: Just recovery or recycly
02/17/05 21:02:17 scottk: I can fidn out tomorrow...he just mentioned it to me yesterday
02/17/05 21:02:22 MikeIN: alan in CA has a nice setup where he recycles and re uses his dirty water
02/17/05 21:02:27 Quik_Carl: Beth are you going to be using the wood tux wet this year?
02/17/05 21:02:36 Jeffrey_Robison: Please let me know
02/17/05 21:02:39 BethnRod: yes
02/17/05 21:02:40 scottk: will do
02/17/05 21:02:55 Jeffrey_Robison: Some what interested.
02/17/05 21:03:09 Jeffrey_Robison: As you know that was a topic of discussion last week.
02/17/05 21:03:18 scottk: The guy just lost A $1500 a week fleet account
02/17/05 21:03:28 MikeIN: wow
02/17/05 21:03:34 MikeIN: that sucks
02/17/05 21:03:43 Quik_Carl: how many coats do u need with that wt wet?
02/17/05 21:03:47 Jeffrey_Robison: That hurts, it seems like you can live or die by the fleet accts.
02/17/05 21:04:01 BethnRod: i'll catch you guys later.
02/17/05 21:04:19 Quik_Carl: nite
02/17/05 21:04:19 BethnRod: tomorrow is..Friday :)
02/17/05 21:04:24 scottk: he's looking for others to pick up....not sure why he wants to sell the VB...fleets are the only area we have strict enforement around here
02/17/05 21:04:33 BethnRod Logs Out
02/17/05 21:04:47 MikeIN: so qucikly beth?
02/17/05 21:04:53 MikeIN: oh shes gone
02/17/05 21:05:30 Quik_Carl: any of u guys doing decks ---if so what is your sealer of choice
02/17/05 21:05:40 Jeffrey_Robison: no decks here
02/17/05 21:05:45 MikeIN: shes missing my big announcement :)
02/17/05 21:05:48 scottk: I would like to hera more about the reclaim issues brought up at the meeting in Atl
02/17/05 21:05:54 Jeffrey_Robison: I mean I don't do them
02/17/05 21:06:07 Jeffrey_Robison: Supposedly they are going to be enforced shortly
02/17/05 21:06:29 Jeffrey_Robison: What is your big announcement?
02/17/05 21:06:34 scottk: yeah...and there is a force pushing harder than ever
02/17/05 21:06:46 MikeIN: small town here, not much laws
02/17/05 21:06:50 Jeffrey_Robison: What is that force?
02/17/05 21:07:14 scottk: in populations over 50k the enforcement is different
02/17/05 21:07:25 scottk: pwna
02/17/05 21:07:36 MikeIN: less then 30 k here
02/17/05 21:07:43 Jeffrey_Robison: You are probably correct scott
02/17/05 21:08:12 scottk: the local authorities call me whne they have question about what can and can not go into the storm drain
02/17/05 21:08:27 Quik_Carl: nice talking with u guys ----have a good nite
02/17/05 21:08:36 MikeIN: nothing can, just storm water
02/17/05 21:08:50 Jeffrey_Robison: I talked to my local town guy yesterday about getting put on bid list and it was the first question
02/17/05 21:08:58 scottk: they know now
02/17/05 21:08:59 Quik_Carl Logs Out
02/17/05 21:09:24 Jeffrey_Robison: I was very surprised
02/17/05 21:09:39 scottk: there are some cost effective ways to filter to the sanitary sewer
02/17/05 21:09:58 scottk: if you can get permission
02/17/05 21:10:06 Jeffrey_Robison: I had a local guy tell me that as long as water is the only thing being used, It was fine, doing mohter natures work
02/17/05 21:10:39 scottk: that's not correct.......nothing but rain water is how the CWA reads
02/17/05 21:10:45 MikeIN: laws are different everywhere
02/17/05 21:10:50 Jeffrey_Robison: He does a lot of gas stations and said he does not carry anything on his truck while doing the stations
02/17/05 21:11:15 MikeIN: but theres still gas and oil on the concrete
02/17/05 21:11:18 Jeffrey_Robison: I did not believe him, but he thinks that is the law
02/17/05 21:11:24 MikeIN: and you would was that into the storm drain
02/17/05 21:11:24 scottk: wash water with no chems still contains oils,mold,mildew etc. these are considered pollutants
02/17/05 21:11:41 Jeffrey_Robison: I know
02/17/05 21:12:03 Jeffrey_Robison: be back in a minute
02/17/05 21:12:16 scottk: some guys will never believe you .....
02/17/05 21:12:18 MikeIN: you can simple put plastic over the storm drain and sandbags, and divert the water to the grass
02/17/05 21:13:31 MikeIN: as long as it goes to the grass and not in the storm drain your fine, you dont "have" to haul it away
02/17/05 21:14:10 scottk: it should be filtered for solids of it;s going to the sanitary sewer
02/17/05 21:15:27 MikeIN: but then again thats why I said I dont do alot of commercial flatwork now, I want to be set up to recover first.
02/17/05 21:15:58 MikeIN: fleet washing too
02/17/05 21:16:54 MikeIN: scott, does don sell the "phelps wand" yet :)
02/17/05 21:17:08 scottk: we do a commercial often...it's not as hard as people make it out to be
02/17/05 21:17:39 MikeIN: theres so much residential work to do here it keeps a part time guy very busy
02/17/05 21:17:42 scottk: no...he's not producing them yet...you can copy the design from the post he has made on the BBS
02/17/05 21:17:58 MikeIN: I saw the post, he should patent it
02/17/05 21:18:34 scottk: something him and I have talked about before
02/17/05 21:18:59 scottk: he's considered the roof guru by most that know him
02/17/05 21:19:01 MikeIN: for us "not very mechanical" kinda guys that would much rather buy one
02/17/05 21:19:20 MikeIN: i've seen photos of his work, he's awesome on the roofs
02/17/05 21:19:54 scottk: i build one....it's easy once you get the parts together
02/17/05 21:21:29 MikeIN: now if I can just get someone to build a "gutter vac" i'd be set
02/17/05 21:21:35 scottk: he is more than willingto help people get set up to do roofs....pick his brain
02/17/05 21:21:48 Jeffrey_Robison: Scott, you interested in the work posted by Van deisel?
02/17/05 21:21:59 scottk: the $$$ isn't very good
02/17/05 21:22:05 scottk: and lots of travel
02/17/05 21:22:14 Jeffrey_Robison: Seems like a lot of work for not much $
02/17/05 21:22:19 scottk: $125 per location isn't enough
02/17/05 21:22:25 MikeIN: gutters are good money here, alot of season change here
02/17/05 21:22:40 MikeIN: 125 dollars for 30 minutes work
02/17/05 21:22:43 MikeIN: is not good?
02/17/05 21:23:02 Jeffrey_Robison: Different topic Mike
02/17/05 21:23:08 MikeIN: oh
02/17/05 21:23:14 Jeffrey_Robison: A chain of gas stations.
02/17/05 21:23:16 scottk: gas station flatwork mike
02/17/05 21:23:20 MikeIN: oh ok
02/17/05 21:23:28 MikeIN: uh that is low
02/17/05 21:23:42 Jeffrey_Robison: Not many around ATL I don't think
02/17/05 21:23:52 scottk: if I could bid them for myself them maybe.....we would need double what he is doing for sure
02/17/05 21:24:43 scottk: I don't know of any around here either
02/17/05 21:25:03 MikeIN: you guys ever try the "flat hose" for your water line? it rolls up and takes up no room at all, but now shure how it would work under the abuse of day to day wear & tear
02/17/05 21:25:12 MikeIN: sure **
02/17/05 21:25:18 Jeffrey_Robison: Do you get most of your work by just "knocking on doors" or do you advertise much
02/17/05 21:25:26 Sky__Clean: hi guys
02/17/05 21:25:46 MikeIN: newspaper ads and people walking up to me while doing neighbors house
02/17/05 21:25:53 scottk: we do a little of everything......i like direct mail
02/17/05 21:25:59 Jeffrey_Robison: I have thought about the roll up hose. I have one at work 100" is about 18" in diameter.
02/17/05 21:26:05 Sky__Clean: has anyone cleaned Garbage trucks?
02/17/05 21:26:26 MikeIN: yellow page ads are expensive
02/17/05 21:26:39 Jeffrey_Robison: I like very targeted direct mail, to a specific group of business
02/17/05 21:27:04 MikeIN: the area i live in, everyone gets their local news from the paper, so it's a good place to advertise, it seems everyone reads it daily
02/17/05 21:27:05 Jeffrey_Robison: Mike, newspaper ads, or the service directories
02/17/05 21:27:22 Sky__Clean: does anyone know anybody that cleans garbage trucks?
02/17/05 21:27:24 scottk: we have been doing unsolicited bids on residential......we price out ercommended item seprately adn the offer a package price for all......leave it on teh front door with a business card
02/17/05 21:27:41 Jeffrey_Robison: I am seriously thinking about running a 1"x4" ad for a month in the county paper
02/17/05 21:28:04 MikeIN: well this is a small paper jeff, it would be more of a service directory
02/17/05 21:28:12 Sky__Clean Logs Out
02/17/05 21:28:13 scottk: sorry Sky no one i know
02/17/05 21:28:19 MikeIN: no garbage truck cleaning here sky, it stinks :)
02/17/05 21:28:48 Jeffrey_Robison: A daily circulation of 64,000 and Sunday 105,000
02/17/05 21:29:14 MikeIN: I would give it a try jeff, with spring cleaning on peoples minds it would jump out and grab them
02/17/05 21:29:41 scottk: get in tight with the editor Jeff..see if you can trade 6 months for a driveway wash or housewash
02/17/05 21:29:43 Jeffrey_Robison: thats what I think its only 480 a month and one or two jobs would cover it.
02/17/05 21:29:43 MikeIN: this may sound funny but
02/17/05 21:30:03 MikeIN: i actually got a good response hanging a flyer with phone numbers in the local grocery store
02/17/05 21:30:13 Jeffrey_Robison: What was your big announce ment mike
02/17/05 21:30:31 scottk: we traded a driveway for a full year in the newspaper here last year
02/17/05 21:30:37 Jeffrey_Robison: What ever works. I love guerilla marketing
02/17/05 21:30:42 MikeIN: good idea scott ;)
02/17/05 21:30:54 MikeIN: its called bartering right?
02/17/05 21:30:55 Jeffrey_Robison: did it get you much work.
02/17/05 21:31:09 scottk: 3 jobs
02/17/05 21:31:31 Jeffrey_Robison: From a year?
02/17/05 21:31:35 scottk: but it put our name in front of potentail customets
02/17/05 21:31:44 Jeffrey_Robison: Exactly!
02/17/05 21:31:47 scottk: $2000
02/17/05 21:32:01 Jeffrey_Robison: The guy said you ad wants to create a need for your service.
02/17/05 21:32:02 MikeIN: i guess it depends on your area, like I said everyone reads the paper here for the local news, no tv stations here, so the paper works in this area
02/17/05 21:32:07 scottk: triple what i would have charged for teh driveway
02/17/05 21:32:26 Jeffrey_Robison: good deal for you
02/17/05 21:32:34 scottk: we did a 30 second business spotlight with the local NBC station ran it 2 times
02/17/05 21:33:30 scottk: we are donatng a housewash to the Relay for Life...they are going to raffle it off as a fund raiser
02/17/05 21:33:53 MikeIN: my big announcement, I guess you can call it more of a little announcement :)
02/17/05 21:34:10 Jeffrey_Robison: I did that for my church, It was an auction, brought the church a lousy 75.00
02/17/05 21:34:12 MikeIN: is that a race?
02/17/05 21:34:16 scottk: $125 value (up to 2000sq ft single story house)
02/17/05 21:34:26 Jeffrey_Robison: Baby?
02/17/05 21:34:35 scottk: fund raiser for cancer research
02/17/05 21:34:43 MikeIN: awesome
02/17/05 21:35:38 Jeffrey_Robison: Mike you having a baby
02/17/05 21:35:46 MikeIN: Scott do you have sonnys bbq down there?
02/17/05 21:35:57 scottk: ye swe do mike
02/17/05 21:35:57 Jeffrey_Robison: They are all over the place in ATL
02/17/05 21:36:01 scottk: yes
02/17/05 21:36:13 MikeIN: you cant get good bbq north of the mason dixon line
02/17/05 21:36:15 MikeIN: it sucks
02/17/05 21:36:30 MikeIN: it was some dang good grub
02/17/05 21:36:35 scottk: lol
02/17/05 21:36:46 Jeffrey_Robison: Sonny's aint that good, you gotta find a shack on the side of the road, that is where the good stuff is
02/17/05 21:36:47 MikeIN: can you send me a weekly doggy bag?
02/17/05 21:37:12 MikeIN: all you can eat ribs and chicken taste good any day to me jeff
02/17/05 21:37:43 Jeffrey_Robison: there is a place up here, unreal, old guy just opens when he wants to. But when he is it is goood.
02/17/05 21:37:52 scottk: jeff is right the small places are way better
02/17/05 21:38:27 MikeIN: i dont think they know what bbq is up here, and god forbid someone actually make ice tea with sugar for once up here
02/17/05 21:38:38 MikeIN: so I need to get down there again soon
02/17/05 21:38:44 Jeffrey_Robison: unsweet tea is unamerican
02/17/05 21:39:03 Jeffrey_Robison: It even has a communist taste to it.
02/17/05 21:39:14 scottk: they should be shot
02/17/05 21:39:23 MikeIN: asked a waitress for sweet tea up here, she said she had none but i could add sweet in low to it.. told here that
02/17/05 21:39:37 MikeIN: all the sweet n low in the world cant take the yankee out of this iced tea
02/17/05 21:39:43 Jeffrey_Robison: Splenda is the bomb if you are watching the calories.
02/17/05 21:40:20 MikeIN: umm i have to much invested in this to be counting calories now
02/17/05 21:40:33 scottk: mike you do know how to make sweet tea don't ya??????
02/17/05 21:40:51 Jeffrey_Robison: Scott give me a holla if you find out more on the vacuboom system, I am real serious if the price is right.
02/17/05 21:40:52 MikeIN: hows that?
02/17/05 21:41:10 scottk: will do jeff
02/17/05 21:41:52 Jeffrey_Robison: I make mine in a coffee pot, takes about 10 minutes.
02/17/05 21:42:27 scottk: put 1 large family tea bag in a small pot fill with water boil on stove.por into 1 gallon jug add 1 cup of sugar and fill to the top with water...put in frige
02/17/05 21:42:43 scottk: pour
02/17/05 21:42:55 MikeIN: 3 cups of sugar, got ya :)
02/17/05 21:43:04 Jeffrey_Robison: Lighweight
02/17/05 21:43:35 scottk: jeffs way works alos...just make sure you clean the filetr holder and pot well or it tastes like coffee
02/17/05 21:43:36 MikeIN: 6'2" 240lbs is not a lightweight
02/17/05 21:43:39 scottk: also
02/17/05 21:43:45 scottk: lightweight
02/17/05 21:43:56 scottk: 6' 290lbs
02/17/05 21:44:09 Jeffrey_Robison: 5'8" 255 powerlifter
02/17/05 21:44:20 Jeffrey_Robison: Scott is a big dude.
02/17/05 21:44:29 scottk: jeff has seen me in person...he'll tell you ...i can sell shade
02/17/05 21:44:37 MikeIN: he's got more tattoos then me too
02/17/05 21:44:51 scottk: just 7
02/17/05 21:44:59 MikeIN: 2 here
02/17/05 21:45:05 scottk: both ears pierced also
02/17/05 21:45:08 Jeffrey_Robison: No tatoos here, I'm just too dang pretty without them
02/17/05 21:45:11 MikeIN: just call me mini scott
02/17/05 21:45:40 Jeffrey_Robison: What is your full time job Mike
02/17/05 21:45:40 scottk: don't wear them often the old ladies freak out when i come to the door with them in
02/17/05 21:46:26 scottk: too pretty????.......your wife won't let you have a tat Jeff..........lol........joking
02/17/05 21:46:39 Sky__Clean Logs in [65.94.237.82]
02/17/05 21:46:41 Jeffrey_Robison: Never had the urge
02/17/05 21:46:45 MikeIN: service for soft drink
02/17/05 21:46:54 Sky__Clean: hi every1
02/17/05 21:47:02 MikeIN: hello sky
02/17/05 21:47:03 Jeffrey_Robison: Just so permanent
02/17/05 21:47:25 MikeIN: i got mine years ago, when I was young and dumb
02/17/05 21:47:25 Jeffrey_Robison: Gotta go, See you guys later.
02/17/05 21:47:48 Sky__Clean: so guys, has anyone herd of the machine called Epps?
02/17/05 21:47:49 scottk: got mine a few years ago..all 7 in 12 months
02/17/05 21:47:59 Sky__Clean: thats the one I am plannign to buyy
02/17/05 21:48:06 scottk: Epps makes good equipment from what ihave heard
02/17/05 21:48:10 MikeIN: mid life crisis scott?
02/17/05 21:48:24 Jeffrey_Robison: Everyone just thought the barbed wire would look great when they were 50
02/17/05 21:48:31 scottk: naw...got rid of teh ex that said NO
02/17/05 21:49:03 scottk: tribal ...no barbed wire...that is a prison tat
02/17/05 21:49:04 MikeIN: :D
02/17/05 21:49:29 Sky__Clean: from you guys experince, whats the best machine out there?
02/17/05 21:49:33 MikeIN: you should get a wand on your bicep
02/17/05 21:49:40 Jeffrey_Robison: Saturday night live did a skit on lower back tattoos.
02/17/05 21:49:45 MikeIN: from what i hear, hydrotek
02/17/05 21:49:49 scottk: we have Largo...out of TN
02/17/05 21:50:07 scottk: i saw that skit...was rolling in the floor laughing
02/17/05 21:50:17 Jeffrey_Robison: It showed a dramatization of "pretty lady" drooping into "Pretty sad" after about 20 Years.
02/17/05 21:51:04 scottk: they are all basically build from the same components Sky...the manufactures put the parts on their frames and sell them under their name
02/17/05 21:51:09 Jeffrey_Robison: What about the surprise from Jamaica at the end.
02/17/05 21:51:22 scottk: too funny
02/17/05 21:52:00 Jeffrey_Robison: IS hydrotek a good brand, I have my eye on a 8gpm right now.
02/17/05 21:52:24 scottk: a little on the pricey side but good from what I have heard
02/17/05 21:52:29 MikeIN: i think thats what my next unit will be
02/17/05 21:52:35 Jeffrey_Robison: Big truck, good price. Just not sure if I want to go in that deep just yet
02/17/05 21:52:39 scottk: jeff are you looking for new or used machine
02/17/05 21:52:46 Jeffrey_Robison: Used at a steal
02/17/05 21:53:13 Jeffrey_Robison: Not a good deal, but a I'm loosing my rear kind of deal.
02/17/05 21:53:42 Jeffrey_Robison: Only 140 hours, and a big box truck.
02/17/05 21:53:55 scottk: price????
02/17/05 21:54:08 Jeffrey_Robison: Not that I would ever need it but 1000 gallon water capacity.
02/17/05 21:54:18 Jeffrey_Robison: Negotiating
02/17/05 21:54:23 MikeIN: thats alot of weight
02/17/05 21:54:39 Jeffrey_Robison: Big Ford 700 box truck
02/17/05 21:54:51 scottk: year???
02/17/05 21:54:56 Jeffrey_Robison: 1998
02/17/05 21:55:12 scottk: mileage..wil you need a cdl?
02/17/05 21:55:15 scottk: will
02/17/05 21:55:23 Jeffrey_Robison: 77K, nope
02/17/05 21:56:09 Jeffrey_Robison: big investment, but a good write off as well, I get killed on taxes.
02/17/05 21:56:25 scottk: $14,000 orhigher i'm guesssing
02/17/05 21:56:57 Jeffrey_Robison: Possibly 12,000, is he comes to 12,000 more than likely it';s a deal.
02/17/05 21:57:06 Jeffrey_Robison: IF
02/17/05 21:57:09 scottk: lol
02/17/05 21:57:21 Jeffrey_Robison: What's that look for
02/17/05 21:57:21 scottk: what else besides the machien and truck?
02/17/05 21:57:25 scottk: machine
02/17/05 21:57:59 Jeffrey_Robison: Surface cleaner, Hannay triple stack reels, huge ladder other accessories
02/17/05 21:58:04 Brian_Sawyer Logs in [68.209.234.247]
02/17/05 21:58:21 Jeffrey_Robison: Nice to meet you Saturday Brian
02/17/05 21:58:24 scottk: it sounds like a deal @12k
02/17/05 21:58:42 MikeIN: offer him 11k
02/17/05 21:58:45 MikeIN: :D
02/17/05 21:58:50 Brian_Sawyer: It was great meeting you too jeff
02/17/05 21:58:51 Jeffrey_Robison: A deal, but not sure if its a steal or not.
02/17/05 21:59:16 Jeffrey_Robison: Brian give me a call, I have a unit you might be interested in, It would be great for starting out.
02/17/05 21:59:26 Brian_Sawyer: are things allready winding down?
02/17/05 21:59:35 Jeffrey_Robison: I am about to be out.
02/17/05 21:59:43 scottk: yeah if the truck is sound mechanically and the equipment has been maintained it is
02/17/05 22:00:07 MikeIN: box trucks can be a rolling billboard for your company also
02/17/05 22:00:13 MikeIN: if you get it lettered
02/17/05 22:00:20 Jeffrey_Robison: He says it has. I just don't know if I have the need for such a beast right now.
02/17/05 22:00:26 Jeffrey_Robison: My thoughts exactly
02/17/05 22:00:47 scottk: it is a lot of vehicle
02/17/05 22:00:56 Jeffrey_Robison: I'm a lot of MAN
02/17/05 22:00:59 Brian_Sawyer: I'll give you a call when you leave the chat.
02/17/05 22:01:09 Brian_Sawyer: lol
02/17/05 22:01:21 Jeffrey_Robison: tomorrow would be better, do you have the #
02/17/05 22:01:24 scottk: will it be easyto access the houses and other places you clean with it???
02/17/05 22:01:30 Brian_Sawyer: yeah you gave it to me
02/17/05 22:01:33 Brian_Sawyer: I have your card
02/17/05 22:01:45 Jeffrey_Robison: I think so. park on the road and go to work.
02/17/05 22:02:03 Jeffrey_Robison: I think it would make me more competitive in the commercial market
02/17/05 22:02:11 Brian_Sawyer: I have a question for you guys
02/17/05 22:02:13 MikeIN: where would a ladder go?
02/17/05 22:02:24 Jeffrey_Robison: Inside walls
02/17/05 22:02:37 Brian_Sawyer: when you get insured, does that include your equipment and your truck?
02/17/05 22:02:45 Jeffrey_Robison: It has the rack already.
02/17/05 22:02:57 scottk: you can include it Brian...it's called inland marine
02/17/05 22:03:11 Jeffrey_Robison: Joe walters offered the insurance on the equip. I declined
02/17/05 22:03:24 scottk: teh additional charge is figured on the value of your equipment
02/17/05 22:03:40 MikeIN: if you store it at home, you can extend your home owners ins
02/17/05 22:03:43 Brian_Sawyer: what about the truck or van that you use for work
02/17/05 22:04:09 MikeIN: but you would still need liabilty ins
02/17/05 22:04:27 scottk: we pay one price because we use it for the business and personal use
02/17/05 22:05:03 Jeffrey_Robison: I have a truck only for work, I just carry it under my regular policy.
02/17/05 22:05:28 scottk: homeowners doesn't cover theft while on a job...that's where inland marine comes into play
02/17/05 22:05:48 MikeIN: i carry all my ins, persoanl & business from one company, you get discounts that way
02/17/05 22:06:02 Brian_Sawyer: I would be using if for business and personal. I wondering if I'm going to have to get a special policy for the truck or is it covered under the insurance of the business
02/17/05 22:06:03 MikeIN: good point scott
02/17/05 22:06:25 Jeffrey_Robison: see you guys later. Give me a call brian, I am thinking of biggie sizing and selling my starter righ. W
02/17/05 22:06:37 MikeIN: it all depends on your policy your ins guy writes for you
02/17/05 22:06:45 Brian_Sawyer: I'll call you tomoorow
02/17/05 22:06:46 MikeIN: it could include or not incl;ude just about anything
02/17/05 22:06:51 Jeffrey_Robison: starter rig. Machine, surface cleaner and ulitity body truck
02/17/05 22:07:03 Jeffrey_Robison: hoses, etc.
02/17/05 22:07:14 MikeIN: i've been looking at utl body trucks
02/17/05 22:07:56 MikeIN: you happy with yours?
02/17/05 22:08:00 Jeffrey_Robison: I love it, just outgrowing it. You can lock everything up, and the washer sits high enough to where noone can mess with it.
02/17/05 22:08:01 Brian_Sawyer: hot or cold water
02/17/05 22:08:06 Jeffrey_Robison: Hot and cold.
02/17/05 22:08:21 Brian_Sawyer: what type of truck
02/17/05 22:08:25 MikeIN Logs Out
02/17/05 22:08:39 Jeffrey_Robison: 89 Chevy 3500 with 8ft utility body.
02/17/05 22:08:49 Brian_Sawyer: got any pics that you can send?
02/17/05 22:09:08 Jeffrey_Robison: Not sure of the mileage, but it runs really strong. Picts? I can take a few.
02/17/05 22:09:13 Brian_Sawyer: cool
02/17/05 22:09:18 scottk: Sky..... Scott Stone is on the BB...he does fleet washing...if you post some questions he'll more than likely answer
02/17/05 22:09:25 Jeffrey_Robison: Not one single problem in about a year.
02/17/05 22:09:43 Brian_Sawyer: shot me an email with a couple of pics
02/17/05 22:09:50 Jeffrey_Robison: email address?
02/17/05 22:09:54 Brian_Sawyer: j_sawyer@bellsouth.net
02/17/05 22:10:34 scottk: ok eveerybody spam Brian.................lol
02/17/05 22:10:44 Jeffrey_Robison: It will be this weekend. I am having regular maintenance done tomorrow. Every 50 hours.
02/17/05 22:11:08 scottk: what are you having done every 50 hrs Jeff
02/17/05 22:11:23 Jeffrey_Robison: Oil change
02/17/05 22:11:27 Brian_Sawyer: thats cool, when you have time
02/17/05 22:11:44 Jeffrey_Robison: It sits sometimes, I just keep up with stuff like that.
02/17/05 22:11:50 scottk: on the truck or machine
02/17/05 22:11:57 Jeffrey_Robison: Machine
02/17/05 22:12:12 scottk: do you do it yourself?
02/17/05 22:12:47 Jeffrey_Robison: Probably overboard, but I am not comfortable working on it myself at this time, nor do I have the time.
02/17/05 22:13:24 Jeffrey_Robison: See you guys.
02/17/05 22:13:28 Jeffrey_Robison Logs Out
02/17/05 22:13:32 scottk: nothing wrong with getting it done
02/17/05 22:13:46 scottk: I'm out also....later guys
02/17/05 22:13:54 scottk Logs Out
02/17/05 22:14:00 Brian_Sawyer: seeya
02/17/05 22:15:03 Brian_Sawyer: I show up and everyone takes off
02/17/05 22:35:16 Brian_Sawyer: sky clean, you just now getting into the busines?
02/17/05 22:51:51 Sky__Clean: i am back guys
02/17/05 22:52:02 Sky__Clean: are u there Brian?
02/17/05 22:52:07 Sky__Clean: yes I am
02/17/05 22:52:27 Brian_Sawyer: yeah I'm here
02/17/05 22:52:42 Brian_Sawyer: I'm thinking about starting one also
02/17/05 22:52:53 Sky__Clean: where are u located?
02/17/05 22:53:00 Brian_Sawyer: Tennessee
02/17/05 22:53:04 Sky__Clean: I am in Canada
02/17/05 22:53:07 Brian_Sawyer: Knoxville
02/17/05 22:53:14 Sky__Clean: Toronto for me
02/17/05 22:53:18 Sky__Clean: how old are u?
02/17/05 22:53:21 Brian_Sawyer: 32
02/17/05 22:53:26 Sky__Clean: I am 28
02/17/05 22:53:43 Sky__Clean: i am trying to figure out prices?
02/17/05 22:53:53 Sky__Clean: rates?
02/17/05 22:53:58 Brian_Sawyer: yeah thats seems to be tough to figure out
02/17/05 22:54:07 Sky__Clean: i am having a tough time with that
02/17/05 22:54:28 Sky__Clean: have u talked to anyone that cleans garbage trucks?
02/17/05 22:54:33 Brian_Sawyer: no
02/17/05 22:54:44 Sky__Clean: its hard
02/17/05 22:54:46 Brian_Sawyer: there are a couple of ppl here that wash fleet trucks
02/17/05 22:55:18 Sky__Clean: i will talk to them
02/17/05 22:55:27 Sky__Clean: brian, i am goign now
02/17/05 22:55:33 Sky__Clean: i am goign to take off
02/17/05 22:55:38 Brian_Sawyer: ok, good talking to you
02/17/05 22:55:43 Sky__Clean: i will be here tomorrow ok
02/17/05 22:55:47 Brian_Sawyer: seeya then
02/17/05 22:55:51 Sky__Clean: see u later
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