Wood Chat - 10/05/05

[Beth n Rod]

10/5/05 19:53:24 PressureProsInc Logs in [68.85.19.199]

10/5/05 19:53:49 PressureProsInc: I forgot how to get in here

10/5/05 19:54:23 PressureProsInc: hello?

10/5/05 19:54:48 PressureProsInc Logs Out

10/5/05 19:55:29 BarryM Logs in [24.11.248.38]

10/5/05 19:55:29 Russell_C Logs in [172.162.205.126]

10/5/05 19:55:43 Russell_C: Hello Barry

10/5/05 19:55:51 BarryM: Hey Russell

10/5/05 19:56:00 Russell_C: How are you this evening?

10/5/05 19:56:09 BarryM: good, and u

10/5/05 19:56:20 Russell_C: I am doing well, thank you.

10/5/05 19:56:43 Russell_C: Did you come with something on your mind tonight?

10/5/05 19:56:59 BarryM: nothing specific

10/5/05 19:57:02 PressureProsInc Logs in [68.85.19.199]

10/5/05 19:57:14 Russell_C: Welcome to Wood-Chat

10/5/05 19:57:26 PressureProsInc: This is going to be an in and out for me... how are you guys?

10/5/05 19:57:33 Russell_C: How was your week?

10/5/05 19:57:34 BarryM: good, thanks

10/5/05 19:57:41 Russell_C: Also well

10/5/05 19:57:43 PressureProsInc: mine was good

10/5/05 19:58:09 Russell_C: How is your weather holding?

10/5/05 19:58:16 PressureProsInc: I have ben blessed

10/5/05 19:58:24 PressureProsInc: warm and dry

10/5/05 19:58:25 BarryM: cooling off

10/5/05 19:58:26 Russell_C: We've started down the slipery slope

10/5/05 19:58:37 PressureProsInc: It's starting to change here too

10/5/05 19:58:45 Russell_C: Temps are slipping here

10/5/05 19:58:46 BarryM: highs in the 60s this weekend

10/5/05 19:59:09 Russell_C: I am going hiking

10/5/05 19:59:14 PressureProsInc: I have three decks open.. Russ I am going to have to order tint from you

10/5/05 19:59:20 PressureProsInc: where at Russell?

10/5/05 19:59:26 Russell_C: Not a problem

10/5/05 19:59:55 Russell_C: Southern MO

10/5/05 20:00:17 Russell_C: Would you like black and Red?

10/5/05 20:00:37 PressureProsInc: yes, thats what I need

10/5/05 20:00:58 Russell_C: Ok, if you don't mind, shoot me an e-mial as a reminder

10/5/05 20:01:30 Russell_C: Hey, how long before you've got to go?

10/5/05 20:01:35 PressureProsInc: I will Russell and thank you. Okay I better egt my butt off of here, Christine is already a little peved with me for taking over the shed and basement with gear

10/5/05 20:01:41 PressureProsInc: now lol

10/5/05 20:01:51 Russell_C: Oh, gotcha

10/5/05 20:01:56 BarryM: later

10/5/05 20:02:02 Russell_C: I wanted to talk with you about color

10/5/05 20:02:08 PressureProsInc: Take care Bary and tyou too Russ

10/5/05 20:02:13 PressureProsInc Logs Out

10/5/05 20:02:14 Russell_C: Have a good evening

10/5/05 20:02:30 Russell_C: Do you do much staining Barry?

10/5/05 20:02:54 BarryM: part time

10/5/05 20:03:17 Russell_C: ok, so you are familiar with wood restoration

10/5/05 20:03:21 BarryM: I've been pretty dead this summer

10/5/05 20:03:30 Russell_C: Why is that?

10/5/05 20:03:49 BarryM: first year and I didnt advertise too much

10/5/05 20:04:01 BarryM: I had a lot of work this spring

10/5/05 20:04:14 Russell_C: Do you ask your customers for refferals?

10/5/05 20:04:29 BarryM: remember i got some of the WT wet from u

10/5/05 20:04:32 LouBeach Logs in [68.50.59.38]

10/5/05 20:04:39 BarryM: back in May

10/5/05 20:04:51 BarryM: I'm in Plymouth, IN

10/5/05 20:04:56 LouBeach Leaves Subroom

10/5/05 20:05:00 Russell_C: Oh, ok

10/5/05 20:05:15 Russell_C: I think you would like the thinner product much better

10/5/05 20:05:23 Russell_C: Welcome Lou

10/5/05 20:05:27 LouBeach: Hello

10/5/05 20:05:32 BarryM: hi

10/5/05 20:05:49 LouBeach: Hey Russ,are u the wood tux guy?

10/5/05 20:05:54 BarryM: yea that wet stuff is tough to work with

10/5/05 20:06:00 Russell_C: Yes, I can help you

10/5/05 20:06:06 LouBeach: Ok

10/5/05 20:06:10 LouBeach: thought you were

10/5/05 20:06:12 BarryM: but I got the job done in and out of rain

10/5/05 20:06:18 Russell_C: Barry, that thick stuff is not in production

10/5/05 20:06:24 BarryM: o

10/5/05 20:06:33 Russell_C: The product is much thinner now

10/5/05 20:06:43 BarryM: I still have 5 gallons

10/5/05 20:06:50 Russell_C: Was there something that you needed help with Lou?

10/5/05 20:07:32 BarryM: so is it real thin like RS

10/5/05 20:07:45 Russell_C: Barry, if you are not going to use it, send it back! ESI has a 100% satisfaction guarentee.

10/5/05 20:08:08 BarryM: ok I just might do that

10/5/05 20:08:23 Russell_C: There were several contractors who exchanged the old thicker stuff for the thin version.

10/5/05 20:08:36 BarryM: do I pay the shipping again?

10/5/05 20:09:24 Russell_C: No, in fact if you call me direct and let me handle it I will just let you keep the 5 of the thick stuff and write you a credit for the new pail.

10/5/05 20:09:25 flimmy1 Logs in [141.151.174.192]

10/5/05 20:09:35 Russell_C: Welcome Flimmy

10/5/05 20:09:45 flimmy1: Thanks

10/5/05 20:09:46 BarryM: sweet, I give you a call

10/5/05 20:09:48 Russell_C > flimmy1: It's Scott right?

10/5/05 20:09:57 flimmy1 > Russell_C: yep

10/5/05 20:10:02 Russell_C: Call my cell at 636-288-8512

10/5/05 20:10:09 BarryM: k

10/5/05 20:10:19 Russell_C > flimmy1: Cool, didn't want to insult you

10/5/05 20:10:49 flimmy1 > Russell_C: no problem , as long as it's not something bad i'm ok with anything lol

10/5/05 20:11:04 Russell_C: If no one has any questions right now, I would like to talk about colors

10/5/05 20:11:12 BarryM: sounds good

10/5/05 20:11:47 Russell_C: How many of you offer more than one color?

10/5/05 20:12:10 BarryM: I do

10/5/05 20:12:19 Russell_C: Scott?

10/5/05 20:12:23 Russell_C: Lou?

10/5/05 20:12:56 flimmy1: I offer whatever the customer wants

10/5/05 20:13:00 BarryM: but I have to be honest

10/5/05 20:13:06 LouBeach: Hi, just listening right now

10/5/05 20:13:14 Russell_C: ok Lou

10/5/05 20:13:21 Russell_C: Go ahead Barry

10/5/05 20:13:33 BarryM: I'm still searching for a brand to use all the time

10/5/05 20:13:42 BarryM: i've used RS

10/5/05 20:13:47 BarryM: Wood def

10/5/05 20:13:56 BarryM: and your old wet stuff

10/5/05 20:14:06 Russell_C: Forget you ever saw that

10/5/05 20:14:17 BarryM: right

10/5/05 20:14:23 Russell_C: It will never exist again

10/5/05 20:14:33 BarryM: fresh slate

10/5/05 20:14:41 Russell_C: Right

10/5/05 20:15:12 Russell_C: Pretty much everyone who has tried the new batch love it.

10/5/05 20:15:27 Russell_C: But I am not trying to sell stain

10/5/05 20:15:34 BarryM: I understand

10/5/05 20:15:35 Russell_C: I would like to ask about colors

10/5/05 20:15:52 BarryM: k

10/5/05 20:16:30 Russell_C: We have been working with a two step process of applying a thin oil we call DPS then over coating with Wood-Tux WET

10/5/05 20:17:11 BarryM: I think I read a little about that in a post but didnt understand it

10/5/05 20:17:26 Russell_C: We have been playing with tinting the DPS to various colors and applying the Wood-Tux as Warm Honey Gold

10/5/05 20:17:41 Russell_C: My question is this. . . .

10/5/05 20:18:50 Russell_C: If you were asked to do a deck that was a special color, how would you feel about first applying the tinted oil (similar to a RS type product) then top coating with the Wood-Tux?

10/5/05 20:19:39 BarryM: I guess I would wonder why is it a two step process

10/5/05 20:19:48 Russell_C: Ok, great

10/5/05 20:19:50 BarryM: that cost me time

10/5/05 20:19:59 Russell_C: Yes it does

10/5/05 20:20:02 LouBeach Logs Out

10/5/05 20:20:03 Russell_C: Scott?

10/5/05 20:20:44 Russell_C: Do you have any feelings?

10/5/05 20:21:21 flimmy1: would in not doulbe the cost also ?

10/5/05 20:21:50 Russell_C: Not really

10/5/05 20:22:02 Russell_C: you would use less of the more expensive product

10/5/05 20:22:12 BarryM: which is?

10/5/05 20:22:14 flimmy1: ok

10/5/05 20:22:40 BarryM: the dps?

10/5/05 20:22:43 Russell_C: you would use the less expensive oil to stain the wood and then the higher quality to protect

10/5/05 20:22:57 Russell_C: Wood-Tux WET is expensive

10/5/05 20:23:16 Russell_C: DPS (or Wood-Tux dmc) is less expensive

10/5/05 20:24:24 Russell_C: It would take more time though

10/5/05 20:24:28 BarryM: but no matter what, your do the whole deck twice

10/5/05 20:24:36 BarryM: right

10/5/05 20:25:02 Russell_C: Here is the problem we get

10/5/05 20:25:31 Russell_C: Many of the contractors who use our product do not have tons of money to invest in inventory

10/5/05 20:25:44 Russell_C: they like to buy more or less what they need for the week

10/5/05 20:26:10 Russell_C: They would like to buy more to take advantage of shipping specials, but cash flow is tight

10/5/05 20:26:25 Russell_C: They want to offer their customers a choice of color

10/5/05 20:26:44 Russell_C: They can not afford to stock many different colors

10/5/05 20:27:05 BarryM: understandable

10/5/05 20:27:12 Russell_C: We are working on a system that will allow the average contractor to offer greater choice with less investment.

10/5/05 20:27:51 flimmy1: by oing the tinting them self ?

10/5/05 20:28:19 Russell_C: We have tints available now that allow for mixing most any color, but many contractors are a little afraid of field tinting.

10/5/05 20:28:56 Russell_C: We were thinking of ofering the less expensive Wood-Tux DMC in a line of pre mixed colors

10/5/05 20:29:29 BarryM: ok

10/5/05 20:30:16 Russell_C: Then you could stock a couple of the colors in the cheaper DMC and just stock the majority of your Wood-Tux WET in clear or Honey gold

10/5/05 20:30:16 BarryM: does the wt wet over top change the color at all?

10/5/05 20:30:23 flimmy1: that would be good. less chance of us screwing it up

10/5/05 20:30:34 Russell_C: Not with clear, but the Warm Honey gold does

10/5/05 20:30:54 BarryM: does the clear have uv protection

10/5/05 20:31:43 Russell_C: No, but you would get theat from the pigment in the less expensive DMC

10/5/05 20:32:16 BarryM: all right, now a few simple questions

10/5/05 20:32:21 flimmy1: how well does the clear hold up ? My wife wants somewwhat of a clear on our deck

10/5/05 20:32:24 BarryM: what does dmc stand for

10/5/05 20:32:47 Russell_C: Deep Moisturizing Conditioner

10/5/05 20:33:11 Russell_C: That is just a brand name

10/5/05 20:33:52 Russell_C: Clear will allow the deck to turn gray in as little as 6 months

10/5/05 20:34:06 flimmy1: ok thats out

10/5/05 20:34:29 Russell_C: Use the Warm Honey Gold and cut it 50% with water

10/5/05 20:34:40 BarryM: so what is the exact purpose of the dmc

10/5/05 20:34:49 Russell_C: It will be a lighter color and still have plenty of UV protection

10/5/05 20:35:21 Russell_C: DMC was designed to replenish old dry wood. It is similar to Ready seal

10/5/05 20:35:47 Russell_C: The main use was intended to be on very old cedar siding

10/5/05 20:35:58 BarryM: so it offers the water and uv protection

10/5/05 20:36:07 BarryM: for the wood

10/5/05 20:36:12 Russell_C: you coat it with the less expensive DMC then save on your more expensive Wood-Tux WET

10/5/05 20:36:38 Russell_C: Yes, but used alone DMC will only look good for about 1 year

10/5/05 20:36:56 Russell_C: it will protect longer, but it will loose its luster and begin to fade

10/5/05 20:37:31 BarryM: so could you use the wt-wet without the dmc

10/5/05 20:37:43 Russell_C: Absolutely!

10/5/05 20:37:50 flimmy1: so wood -tux alone on newer wood is ok.

10/5/05 20:38:00 Russell_C: Wood-Tux WET is possibly the highest quality wood stain on the market

10/5/05 20:38:23 flimmy1: you just want to use the dmc on older wood to replace some of the oil that is gone

10/5/05 20:38:30 Russell_C: Sure, Wood-Tux WET on anything is great protection

10/5/05 20:38:40 Russell_C: Exactly scott

10/5/05 20:39:00 Russell_C: or anytime you need a less expensive easy to apply stain

10/5/05 20:39:09 BarryM: so coverage of the wet is better?

10/5/05 20:39:25 flimmy1: how long should you wait on a brand new pt wood to apply the stain ?

10/5/05 20:39:30 Russell_C: Yes, coverage of WT WET is about 200 sq ft/gallon

10/5/05 20:39:42 flimmy1: is the dmc the same ?

10/5/05 20:39:45 Russell_C: Scott, that is a debateable question

10/5/05 20:39:51 flimmy1: lol

10/5/05 20:39:58 Russell_C: DMC gets less coverage on older wood

10/5/05 20:40:13 flimmy1: 100 ?

10/5/05 20:40:25 Russell_C: I say on new wood, wash it with efc-38 and then stain it

10/5/05 20:40:51 Russell_C: Scott, it can be really low if the wood is very dry

10/5/05 20:41:08 Russell_C: 75 to 100 on like old dry cedar

10/5/05 20:41:18 Russell_C: 200 on new pressure treated

10/5/05 20:41:28 BarryM: so the dmc is the only way to change the color

10/5/05 20:41:30 flimmy1: the reason i ask is because i have a new deck / maybe 2 -3 mo.'s old that I need to stain before too long

10/5/05 20:41:51 Russell_C: Scott, if you wash it first you should be fine

10/5/05 20:42:00 flimmy1: great

10/5/05 20:42:06 Russell_C: Barry, right now you can get a tint system

10/5/05 20:42:21 BarryM: for the dmc

10/5/05 20:42:26 Russell_C: and it comes in the most popular color, Warm Honey gold

10/5/05 20:42:41 Russell_C: WET and DMC

10/5/05 20:42:44 BarryM: k

10/5/05 20:43:13 flimmy1: and to make the wet lighter you could cut it 50% with water , correct ?

10/5/05 20:43:31 Russell_C: Yes, that is correct

10/5/05 20:43:40 flimmy1: that way you keep the uv protection ?

10/5/05 20:44:07 flimmy1: do you have any pic's of it cut ?

10/5/05 20:44:22 Russell_C: if you cut it 1:1 you still have double the pigment solids required to provide 2 years of UV protection

10/5/05 20:44:49 BarryM: what if you don't cut

10/5/05 20:44:52 Russell_C: There may be some from this last round table

10/5/05 20:44:54 flimmy1: maybe with side by side uncut

10/5/05 20:45:26 Russell_C: We did a demo there where we cut it with 60% water

10/5/05 20:45:32 Russell_C: but that was just showing off

10/5/05 20:45:53 flimmy1:

10/5/05 20:45:55 Russell_C: we used it on cedar, pine, teak and Ipe

10/5/05 20:46:27 BarryM: so does the dmc increase the coverage of the wet?

10/5/05 20:46:51 Russell_C: Yes, if you first treat with DMC the WET will not dive as deep

10/5/05 20:47:05 flimmy1: i need to call you and get a sample to make up a test board for my wife

10/5/05 20:47:26 BarryM: so in turn it cuts on the cost of the wt-wet

10/5/05 20:47:27 Russell_C: I can sell you a 5 gallon sample for just $139.00

10/5/05 20:47:36 Russell_C: Exactly Barry

10/5/05 20:47:56 Russell_C > flimmy1: Give me a call

10/5/05 20:48:24 flimmy1 > Russell_C: ok , it will be sometime tomorrow afternoon

10/5/05 20:48:34 Russell_C > flimmy1: Where are you?

10/5/05 20:48:49 flimmy1 > Russell_C: 1 hr south of Pittsburgh

10/5/05 20:48:59 flimmy1 > Russell_C: pa

10/5/05 20:48:59 BarryM: so if you get two years of protection before needing mantainace again, how is that different than other brands

10/5/05 20:49:17 Russell_C > flimmy1: what kind of deck?

10/5/05 20:49:23 flimmy1 > Russell_C: pt

10/5/05 20:49:35 Russell_C: Because if we say two you can count on it

10/5/05 20:49:54 BarryM: k

10/5/05 20:49:56 Russell_C: and that is after you've cut it with water!

10/5/05 20:50:12 BarryM: so how much is the dmc

10/5/05 20:50:40 flimmy1: so it may last longer depending on area and other weather conditions , correct ?

10/5/05 20:50:42 Russell_C: $89 for a single pail

10/5/05 20:51:06 Russell_C: Yes, it could last a good bit longer

10/5/05 20:51:46 BarryM: and can u reapply for mantainance or do you need to strip

10/5/05 20:52:04 Russell_C: Reapply

10/5/05 20:52:15 BarryM: after a light washing of course

10/5/05 20:52:15 Russell_C: I would say strip about ever 12 or so years

10/5/05 20:52:24 flimmy1: and how much product would be needed on a maint. ?

10/5/05 20:52:27 Russell_C: Right, always wash first

10/5/05 20:52:55 flimmy1: would you get more than the 200 ?

10/5/05 20:53:06 Russell_C: I don't have that exact figure but I am going to guess 1/3 less

10/5/05 20:53:09 Russell_C: Yes

10/5/05 20:53:16 BarryM: so back to your orginal question

10/5/05 20:53:30 Russell_C: ok

10/5/05 20:53:33 BarryM: i do think pre mixed colors would be better than tinting

10/5/05 20:53:48 Russell_C: but what if you had to do the whole job twice?

10/5/05 20:54:01 BarryM: well

10/5/05 20:54:06 Russell_C: Twice!

10/5/05 20:54:12 BarryM: RS calls for two coats

10/5/05 20:54:19 Russell_C: Hmmm

10/5/05 20:54:25 Russell_C: ok, that is a good point

10/5/05 20:54:36 BarryM: and i think wood def does too

10/5/05 20:54:43 BarryM: so I guess it doesn't matter

10/5/05 20:54:44 Russell_C: and this is a super easy applictaion

10/5/05 20:54:59 Russell_C: WT WET is only a one coat system

10/5/05 20:55:09 BarryM: right, by itself

10/5/05 20:55:14 Russell_C: Right

10/5/05 20:55:43 Russell_C: DMC by itself would not last near as long

10/5/05 20:56:10 Russell_C: it has a good amount of biocide and pigment and it is really high solids

10/5/05 20:56:24 Russell_C: but it is an open system like RS

10/5/05 20:56:26 BarryM: so how many color r u thinking

10/5/05 20:56:34 Russell_C: it will fade

10/5/05 20:56:35 flimmy1: then the dmc is realy only needed on older wood that is going to suck up more stain

10/5/05 20:56:38 Russell_C: How many do you need?

10/5/05 20:56:53 Russell_C: Yes Scott

10/5/05 20:57:10 Russell_C: Or any time you would like a less expensive product like on fences

10/5/05 20:57:19 BarryM: dont know i was just wondering

10/5/05 20:57:33 Russell_C: Barry, I hat offering color choice personally

10/5/05 20:57:45 Russell_C: If it were left to me all wood would be Warm Honey Gold

10/5/05 20:58:19 BarryM: I do like that color, the warm honey

10/5/05 20:58:29 flimmy1: so do i

10/5/05 20:58:35 BarryM: but you know how people are

10/5/05 20:58:44 BarryM: can u match my house

10/5/05 20:58:45 Russell_C: I would rather work harder selling one color than get used to using several different colors

10/5/05 20:58:52 Russell_C: all the extra rinsing

10/5/05 20:59:08 Russell_C: I don't even clean my brushes, I wrap them in plastic for tomorrow!

10/5/05 20:59:20 Russell_C: I don't want to have to change colors

10/5/05 20:59:53 BarryM: you couldn't do two tones without color

10/5/05 21:00:09 Russell_C: Two tones are for the insane

10/5/05 21:00:14 BarryM: they are a pita anyway

10/5/05 21:00:43 Russell_C: I live in St Louis, if there is a two tone, Reed will handle it!

10/5/05 21:00:59 BarryM: yea

10/5/05 21:01:05 BarryM: he's good

10/5/05 21:01:15 flimmy1: I will be going there next week

10/5/05 21:01:18 Russell_C: He is a very paitent man!

10/5/05 21:01:25 Russell_C: What for Scott?

10/5/05 21:02:27 Russell_C > flimmy1: Ewww, is it real yellow?

10/5/05 21:02:29 BarryM: so is all this stuff and prices on your web site?

10/5/05 21:02:37 flimmy1: I am going to witcita ks to pick up a truck and to kc for a jeep body friend

10/5/05 21:02:44 Russell_C: www.esproducts.net

10/5/05 21:02:57 BarryM: got it

10/5/05 21:03:11 Russell_C: Oh, my bad, I thought you might be working

10/5/05 21:03:22 Russell_C: I didn't know your season was over all ready Scott

10/5/05 21:03:57 flimmy1: it's not , I'm just slow and doing it to make some extra $$

10/5/05 21:04:27 Russell_C: Ahhh, I though you were shutting down for 4 wheel and hunting season

10/5/05 21:04:58 flimmy1: I wish

10/5/05 21:05:46 BarryM: don't be offended Russell but I hope your customer service has improved a little since I last ordered from you. I had a little trouble getting a couple 5 gal pails last time, and to be honest I still havent recieved an invoice or reciept for my records.

10/5/05 21:06:08 Russell_C: Barry, we had a bit of a mess this spring

10/5/05 21:06:15 BarryM: I understand

10/5/05 21:06:24 Russell_C: We ran a bad batch of stain and it slipped past me

10/5/05 21:06:24 flimmy1 > Russell_C: no

10/5/05 21:06:34 Russell_C: that led to a total system melt down!

10/5/05 21:06:45 Russell_C: we were pertty swamped with the recall

10/5/05 21:06:46 BarryM: you sounded very bust everytime i called you

10/5/05 21:06:51 BarryM: busy

10/5/05 21:07:21 Russell_C: I had my hads full for a bit

10/5/05 21:07:25 Russell_C: like I siad

10/5/05 21:07:29 BarryM: except the one time you were having a beer

10/5/05 21:07:31 BarryM: lol

10/5/05 21:07:40 Russell_C: Give me a call and I will get you a free pail of the Tux

10/5/05 21:07:55 Russell_C: Call Susan and she can get you a copy of your invoice

10/5/05 21:07:55 BarryM: ok, thank you.

10/5/05 21:08:35 Russell_C: I must have taken off early that day!

10/5/05 21:09:08 BarryM: or just taking a break

10/5/05 21:09:24 Russell_C: I may have been kidding you about the beer too!

10/5/05 21:09:35 Russell_C: I like to pretend sometimes I am not doing anything

10/5/05 21:09:43 BarryM: right

10/5/05 21:09:57 Russell_C: My favorite is too tell people I cant look that up right now because I am out on the boat

10/5/05 21:10:19 BarryM: good one, I'll remember that

10/5/05 21:10:21 BarryM: lol

10/5/05 21:11:07 Russell_C: Honestly Barry, SunBrite has excellent customer service!

10/5/05 21:11:14 Russell_C: They carry all of our products

10/5/05 21:11:18 flimmy1: because you have all that free time right lol

10/5/05 21:11:35 Russell_C: If you ever need anything and can not get me for some reason, give Pete or Tracy a call

10/5/05 21:12:01 Russell_C: I hardly do anything really

10/5/05 21:12:25 Russell_C: Mostly just hang out on the deck or at the cabin

10/5/05 21:12:58 BarryM: thats funny you say that, they forgot to send out 100ft hose I bought once, after a week I called them and they forgot I guess

10/5/05 21:13:16 BarryM: probably just a one time freak thing

10/5/05 21:13:28 Russell_C: Barry, it sounds like you need to get more agressive with your vendors!

10/5/05 21:13:45 Russell_C: Don't let us push you around!

10/5/05 21:13:53 Russell_C: Deman excellence!

10/5/05 21:14:09 BarryM: well, I'm new and pretty small right now

10/5/05 21:14:25 BarryM: but soon I'll be all over the midwest

10/5/05 21:14:39 Russell_C: Now is when you need the most support!

10/5/05 21:14:48 BarryM: yea

10/5/05 21:14:54 BarryM: that's for sure

10/5/05 21:15:44 Russell_C: Tell me to hook you up with the Deck Of A Deal!

10/5/05 21:16:04 flimmy1: ?

10/5/05 21:16:05 Russell_C: I will send you 5 gallons of free soap and brightener with your pail of stain

10/5/05 21:16:21 BarryM: this is like a game show

10/5/05 21:16:26 BarryM: all right

10/5/05 21:16:28 Russell_C: It's the One Deck of a Deal!

10/5/05 21:16:51 Russell_C: 2 lb of HD-80, 2 lb of Citralic and a pail of Wood-Tux for $139.00

10/5/05 21:17:08 Russell_C: it is enough to do about 750 - 1000 square feet

10/5/05 21:17:23 Russell_C: It's on the web site

10/5/05 21:17:29 flimmy1: I may just have to stop in on my way out or home

10/5/05 21:17:34 Russell_C: Sun Brite os offering it too

10/5/05 21:17:44 BarryM: does the deal come with the free pail you promised me

10/5/05 21:17:44 Russell_C: I will put you to work!

10/5/05 21:17:50 BarryM: lol

10/5/05 21:17:53 Russell_C: I'll hook you up with Reed!

10/5/05 21:18:00 Russell_C: Yes

10/5/05 21:18:07 flimmy1: as long as it's a paying job lol

10/5/05 21:18:11 Russell_C: just remind me and I will throw in the soaps too

10/5/05 21:18:23 BarryM: I'll call you begin of next week

10/5/05 21:18:33 BarryM: thanks again

10/5/05 21:18:39 Russell_C: Yeah Scott, you come on the job and Reed will let you Pay for lunch

10/5/05 21:18:46 BarryM: lol

10/5/05 21:18:50 flimmy1: lol

10/5/05 21:18:51 Russell_C: Not at all Barry!

10/5/05 21:19:38 flimmy1: I guess we'll be having hot dogs at 7-11

10/5/05 21:19:44 flimmy1: lol

10/5/05 21:19:52 Russell_C: I don't think he is going to go for that!

10/5/05 21:20:01 Russell_C: Have you seen the work he does?

10/5/05 21:20:05 flimmy1: ok Wendy's

10/5/05 21:20:10 BarryM: he likes beer

10/5/05 21:20:27 BarryM: I've seen pics

10/5/05 21:20:35 flimmy1: yep , I'd love to work for him for a few days to learn

10/5/05 21:20:38 Russell_C: Fillet

10/5/05 21:20:48 BarryM: mostly RS stuff

10/5/05 21:21:04 Russell_C: Well, we shouldn't hold that against him!

10/5/05 21:21:08 BarryM: no

10/5/05 21:21:11 Russell_C: He still does good work

10/5/05 21:21:16 Russell_C: I am kidding

10/5/05 21:21:20 Russell_C: We kid

10/5/05 21:21:34 BarryM: I didn't care for the med brown I used

10/5/05 21:21:48 BarryM: it had a bland look to it after it dried

10/5/05 21:21:57 BarryM: not like the pics

10/5/05 21:22:08 Russell_C: I sold Ready Seal for a time, it was a popular product

10/5/05 21:22:28 Russell_C: Many people are very happy with it

10/5/05 21:22:32 BarryM: the customer was happy though

10/5/05 21:22:36 BarryM: yes

10/5/05 21:23:16 flimmy1: I have to go , i'll call you tomorrow . good night guys

10/5/05 21:23:24 Russell_C: Good night scott

10/5/05 21:23:26 BarryM: yea same here

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10/5/05 21:23:32 Russell_C: Good Night Barry

10/5/05 21:23:37 BarryM: u too

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10/5/05 23:31:29 cpcc: Yeah buddy!

10/5/05 23:32:09 cpcc: I guess I'm a little late for the chat.

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