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Roof Cleaner - Jun 16th, 08, 12:55 PM

Envirospec has developed a new roof cleaner that is bleach stable and offers exceptional cleaning on all types of surfaces. This product will be avilable for sale on July 1, 2008. How would you like to see it packaged?



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Paul, you can also post it here Roof Cleaning Institute Of America
There is a distributor area.



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I think more info on the product would be helpful



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The product is a blended concentrate cleaner with high grade surfactants and micro emulsion capabilities. It, like all of our chemicals, is blended with no fillers or additives for weight and designed as a "super concentrate" so 5 gallons of concentrate will mix out to as much as 20 gallons of downstream-able soap. Offering further dilutions for direct spray situations like a shurflo.



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So what is the price going to be? What is the recommended mix ratio? How stable is it once mixed - by itself and after mixing with bleach? Can I leave it in my 100 gallon tank for a week and have it still work?



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The price is yet to be determined based on size packages we produce, but pricing will be similar to our other products and we will have some introductory pricing on it.

Your dilution ratios will vary based on what you are looking for and your application methods but it is a super concentrate. To the surface ratios will range from 20-1 to 60-1 as a starting point. If you want I can make up a bunch of big numbers for you to make it seem unbelievable but in reality your methods and conditions will really dictate how it is used.

The product is very stable the high quality surfactants and stabilizers will allow it to remain in solution once mixed without settling out...no fillers.



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Not really sure you can compete with basic pricing as it stands. The established roof cleaners on here aren't likely to pay you for packaging and handling on a product that we already know what the primary component is. You need to market to the DIY'ers over and around the net. The mix I use now works in a matter of minutes, unless your pricing is VERY unbelievable and assuming the products works EQUALLY as well as what we've all been using, I believe interest will be limited among contractors.

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The product is a blended concentrate cleaner with high grade surfactants and micro emulsion capabilities. It, like all of our chemicals, is blended with no fillers or additives for weight and designed as a "super concentrate" so 5 gallons of concentrate will mix out to as much as 20 gallons of downstream-able soap. Offering further dilutions for direct spray situations like a shurflo.
Is this a Sodium Hydroxide cleaner, or is it designed to mix with sodium hypochlorite as an additional cleaner (such as tsp)?



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We don't use any caustic based cleaners, it can however be used alone as a cleaner or mixed with the sodium hypochlorite as well.



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We don't use any caustic based cleaners, it can however be used alone as a cleaner or mixed with the sodium hypochlorite as well.
How does it work?



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They work great, still agressive to the dirt but not too the surface you are cleaning.



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How does it compare to emulsifier plus that I already use for house washing and just add hypochlorite?



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It will perform similar but it is designed for roof cleaning not for siding. Same type of performance but up on the roof.



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Will it spray on and rinse off with JUST a garden hose? I have a feeling the answer is NO. It will probably come with an instruction to use pressure after application. In that case, just skip the chem and just use your pressure.

The Limonene came with that same disclaimer in the instructions... Use even pressure over entire sufrace to clean. Didn't clean a thing only the pressure. So glad I had my trusty Sodium Hypochlorite and simple cherry mix with me or I'd have been there for 4-5 hours instead of my normal 1 hour.

If it won't cut my labor time, then it is of no use. Will this "roof cleaner" beat our already proven system in time and/or cost? That is the real question.



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Powder is allways preferable for me.



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