Acid alternative?

[gregative]

I have found a company that boasts an acid alternative. It is synthetic and appears to be almost as strong as HF yet definetly stronger than phosphoric, sulfuric, and muriatic. Has a 0 HMIS score, 100 biodegradable, safe to the touch, won't etch glass, etc...also is one step w/no neutralizing, only rinsing. Sounds way to good to be true. Anyone run across anything like this??? I have a couple of pails on the way for sampling and was looking for some input from all of you super duper fleet washers out there. They had some before/after pictures on their website that looked alright but of course no one knows how much effort was put in to get them that way. Love picking your brains as always, let me know!

[Scott Stone]

hmm, curious. I have never heard of it. Who is the manufacturer? That could be an indicator of potential effectiveness.

[Paul Kassander]

I'm with Scott, hmmmm...

[gregative]

I will give you the website if you give me a call. I didn't want to put the name out there without test driving it first. I talked with a rep. and they service mostly the concrete industry and the military. I told him if it works that good I'm surprised word hadn't gotten out around the fleet washing industry. He seemed to indicate they got plenty of business in those arena's and hadn't really considered advertising to ours. Give a shout if you want or wait and I'll post my results the day I get my samples.

[Wayne S.]

kinda hard to call ya without a number!

[Keth]

I guess I don't understand. You are asking for opinions on a product but won't tell us what it is? Just post the name and I am sure anyone who has tried it will let you know their thoughts.

[gregative]

Sorry Wayne, I thought my phone number was on my "profile." It is 904-635-0735. The company is called Environmental Manufacturing Solutions and can be reached at www.enviromfg.com, 877-424-6979, and the head salesman is Tim (tim@enviromfg.com). I received a sample of their Ready mix wash & wax and alumi-brite. Waiting to use up the rest of my soap before trying theirs. Did take some alumi-brite w/me today in a pump up sprayer. It did OK on the tanks but not as good as HF. Tested (pump spray spot followed by soap) on wheel rims (pulled oil & grease very well), couple of spots on some trailer doors (did OK), and a concrete tanker (did awesome on concrete and is not their main concrete remover). I was pretty impressed with the results. I think all in all if their products work close to HF without any of the danger involved could be a worthy line for fleet washers. Would love for some of you to try and post your results back. Asked salesman about two stepping their products and he said most people do not do that with their products. I think their Ready mix has a ph of 1 and their Synclean is at the other end of the spectrum which should still give the effect of 2-step even though they are synthetic. Enough rambling on, ya'll get some samples and let everyone know how it goes.

[A and J POWERWASHING]

Almost Ever Body Has Hear Of Environmental Manufacturing Sol.

[Mark Williamson]

I will have to look into thier company.

[gregative]

I'm a newbie so I haven't heard of much. With regards to 2-stepping I have read what I thought were most of the posts on the whole sight and hadn't seen anyone talking about either synthetic acids or synthetic caustics or any other safe alternative than the dreaded brush. If anyone has had experience with it please let me know.

[Jimmy M]

Does anyone have any comments on this stuff? I went to the website and it sounds impessive with all of the endorcements, almost to good to be true.

[gregative]

Turns out this stuff does good with some jobs and not so good with others. Sure doesn't do as good as HF. Their Ready Mix does great on concrete removal but I had to apply it full strength. Turns it to mud. The one good thing is that it truly safe on the skin. HF seems to still be the best so far. Just wish there truly was an another alternative. Anybody come up with anything genius let us know. (No brushing please)

[washer4]

Originally Posted by gregative

I have found a company that boasts an acid alternative. It is synthetic and appears to be almost as strong as HF yet definetly stronger than phosphoric, sulfuric, and muriatic. Has a 0 HMIS score, 100 biodegradable, safe to the touch, won't etch glass, etc...also is one step w/no neutralizing, only rinsing. Sounds way to good to be true. Anyone run across anything like this??? I have a couple of pails on the way for sampling and was looking for some input from all of you super duper fleet washers out there. They had some before/after pictures on their website that looked alright but of course no one knows how much effort was put in to get them that way. Love picking your brains as always, let me know!

could you tell me what site you are talking about?