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Question PWNA get involved! - Nov 2nd, 07, 09:48 AM

Why wont the PWNA get involved with the Drought situation in GA? I would join if they did. If they acted like a national Org it would help the membership go up. If only on a limited bases say to contact the media as an Org ,I think
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Lightbulb Follow up tp PWNA Get involved Please Read - Nov 2nd, 07, 10:56 AM

[Just this morning I sent a somewhat scolding letter to the PWNA asking them why don't you guys act like an Org? I got a phone call 20 min later from one of the board members concerning the situation. I was told that they have been watching the events unfold here in the south but did not really know how to approach it. Not many people have contacted them regarding this situation from this area because there are hardly any members in the state of GA. The PWNA is concerned about things here weather your a member or not. On the positive side they are willing to get involved to get the message out about this situation through press releases and web sites. What I was asked to do is create a story line that I can send to PWNA to tell what is going on. They need something to work with. I asked what in there opinion would be a good approach to this story , I was told probably water conservation and water reclamation also to make it a human interest issue. I caled Pete @ Sunbrite Supply he is willing to add to this story as well. As I was talking to Pete he told me of PW in GA that are calling the Gov office every day and that essentaly the PW industy here is dead.

I asked the question has the PWNA ever thought about becoming a national org and to form chapters so we could all ban together?

A: yes they have approached the idea but they don't have the member base to pull off such a thing, if there were more involvement it might happen.
This is what we need right now.

I am not very good at writing as you can see so I am asking to get info from you guys here in GA and else ware to add to this story. I need ideas and info about previous drought areas and how other PW dealt with that, water reclamation,and how PW businesses are dealing with things here in GA.


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Nov 2nd, 07, 10:58 AM

Todd,

Won't comment on the PWNA part but I want to let you know that myself and a few other individuals are working on something as we speak to render some assistance to you folks down there.

I have touched base with Scott K. and we are closely monitoring the water situation not only in GA but also surrounding states.

We will be announcing all this in the very near future on all the BBS.

Hang in there!!

Feel free to email me with questions newlookpowerwash@aol.com



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Not many people have contacted them regarding this situation from this area because there are hardly any members in the state of GA. The PWNA is concerned about things
I asked the question has the PWNA ever thought about becoming a national org and to form chapters so we could all ban together?

A: yes they have approached the idea but they don't have the member base to pull off such a thing, if there were more involvement it might happen.
This is what we need right now.
did everyone in GA Quit when Cujo left? I thought GA had its own chapter. Thats news to me that they dont have the member base to approach such stuff. I was under the impression that they were national, the member base was growing and thats what thier mission was, to address issues like this for the betterment of the industry.



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Does it matter what the member base in GA is? Sorry to say this but...other states are effected by the drought too, not as badly, but some are. What about them? I'll stop here. It's better that way.

Jon, I soooo agree with you.

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Nov 3rd, 07, 03:19 PM

It is ashame that Cujo is not with PWNA anymore. He has the right stuff to make some waves for the people and to get PWNA even more attention if he was still representing them.
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Does it matter what the member base in GA is? Sorry to say this but...other states are effected by the drought too, not as badly, but some are. What about them? I'll stop here. It's better that way.

Jon, I soooo agree with you.

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Beth,
You are right that other states are experiencing similar effects from the drought.If the contractors in those state choose not to push the matter with their state officials there isn't much I or anyone else can do.I do have sympathy for their situation since I share in it.
I called my peers in the state of Ga. to action to help protect our livelihood.I have been keenly aware of the drought situation in Ga. for over a year and have make contact with the governors office numerous times since the word "drought" was brought up to help keep our industry in/on the minds of those who make decisions in our state.
As for the PWNA representing the industry in situation like this I don't expect it nor do I think it will happen.Their focus in on selling educational courses not the needs of the industry.My gym membership carries as much clout as a PWNA membership currently does.



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My gym membership carries as much clout as a PWNA membership currently does.

That is a priceless quote Scott. This exact situation gives any "industry organization" something to think about for those they expect to join.



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Nov 3rd, 07, 07:58 PM

By the look of Scott's gut both get equal usage.

(kiddin Scott, I have never seen your gut) Thanks for that message the other day ;-)



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Is the PWNA till in biz


to bad they arent helping



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I think so, I got a "second notice" about dues....didn't realize until John T. mentioned they still have a "forum"...



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Scott...so true so true. I want to thank you for filling in the blanks for me last week as it relates to the what you and others have been going through.



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That is a priceless quote Scott. This exact situation gives any "industry organization" something to think about for those they expect to join.
Been thinking of joining for awhile but after I see what they will do for the Industry I will not be joining........



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What do you expect? - Nov 5th, 07, 01:34 PM

Ya'll can say all you want after my post. I don't care. I write this NOT as an employee of a distributorship, but as a person watching this thread. Yes, I, and the company I work for, have had involvment with PWNA. Mostly good, too. But I write this out of sheer, personal wonderment of what you people are thinking. You ask for help from an organization. That is o.k. But some asking for help don't even belong to that organization. You think an organization of ANY sort should be concerned for non-PARTICIPATING people? I capitalized that word because it seems you also think an orginazation is this "grand thing" that is somehow going to make a difference ON your behalf. What I keep missing in these type posts is how the organizations members are going to WORK TOGETHER to make some change. Even our local chapter has gone by the wayside because those members found it too time consuming to be active. Yes, elected officials should be doing some work on your behalf. But let's be real - PWNA is an all volenteer org. These folks have businesses to run also. I see bashing of the org.,or a call for a new one, then I see a cry for help when they don't do something for you. And from folks who don't belong. This seems insane. I haven't seen a single post offering ideas of the help youl'd like to see. I haven't seen any posts with offerings of how YOU are willing to help. You want uniformity for the industry, but don't want to get personaly invoved to make the changes. Those who do, get bashed as having an agenda. Well of course those involved are going to have things go their way. That's the advantage of being involved. Your voice and actions make a difference. Whining about it behind the scenes doesn't make any difference. It doesn't lend to the changes. Just divides more. I'm not trying to attack anyone here or what anyone has said. I'm trying to understand why anyone would ask for something; from a group that they don't belong to; that they often say isn't the unified voice of the industry; that is always accused of having a profit agenda..... Why do you want their help now? Either get involved, or make the changes yourself. If you want others to do it for you, then I'm afraid you'll stay a sheep in the flock. A flock that is divided at best. Just my thoughts.



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Tracy, you may want to consider the people like Beth, Cujo, John T, Brian P, and others that HAVE contributed and got shunned and/or tired of the agenda. I have no problem with the concept of organization and unification. The issue with any org is that unification has to come "top down" from its leadership. The org has to speak with the voice of its membership. Business leaders want return on thier investment whether that investment be time, money or both. Todd may not be a member but he has every right to ask the question, "what will you do for me if I join?". If there is a profit agenda of the leadership, again fine, but show me what MY share of the pie will be.. job leads..marketing of public perception, etc. Its not realistic to expect every member to go to every convention or be on the BOD. You'd have all chiefs, no indians and more fracturing of goals.

We, as business owners sell our service based upon customer benefits. Customers buy from us based upon trust. If we make promises and do not deliver, we go out of business. Is the PWNA exempt from this rule of business? I have seen the P&L and tax returns of the PWNA. Those documents painted a pretty grim picture. I'm not sure what the PWNA management expects? They stay away from the boards and practice secret squirrel. Does that build trust? You have to be a member to visit their forum. Bad idea. This is the information age. Withhold information and you play your own death march. Why could they not elect a person with good written skills that is a trusted business leader to come to the forums and address EVERYONE's issues? I guarantee their membership would rise dramatically.



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