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Celeste, what colors are you using, semi-trans? I would like to see how the transparent colors do on older wood. I know the semi-trans look good on older wood. I've got some of the special blend Super Cedar that I'm gonna try soon.



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We're getting some of the special blend Super Cedar.



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Celeste, you wanna pic of it on a PT board along with some of there other colors?



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Thanks, but I've got a full range of stuff coming and boards waiting



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Seems the more complex formulations get the more simple or old time they really are.
My dear old dad swears by thompsons mixed with linseed.
I always notice that most diy stain recipes handed down or found around the net use about the same ratios of ingredents.
Here's an idea..in a pinch try boiling up some Alboline for a paraffinic repellant additive.
I don't doubt the talk of copper as being ingredients for pigment...Main stuff to get the green or blue tones in concrete staining are copper. (I've used root killer ). Other metals are iron and mangenese. Of course metals would be the contributing element in what some are familiar as calling clay pigments. Interesting to think about...when it comes down to it though, wood care requires all the stuff of fungicide, etc..



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Here's an idea..in a pinch try boiling up some Alboline for a paraffinic repellant additive.
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Seems the more complex formulations get the more simple or old time they really are. My dear old dad swears by thompsons mixed with linseed.
WTF? Abalone is for eating, best shellfish in the world. What the frick is Alboline? And Dad and Thompson's with linseed is about WWII tech.



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In a pinch? Boil some crap for your stain?

If im in a pinch I sure as heck am not about to get some chemical on my kitchen stove, boil it up, let it cool, and add it to a stain container

You must be breathing way too many chemicals kevin



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Jake Clark, via email, stated:

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Since paraffinic oil is lighter than water and can lift with the rain, we fortify the oil with additives that return the paraffin and increase the weight. These nondrying oils completely separate from the drying oils and soak deep into the wood to restore lost natural oils and to dramatically increase the useful life of the wood.
Now this is interesting for those that are crazy stupid about exterior wood. Not that we make our products, but interesting none the less. Sounds good and the source is credible. Jake, can you tell us more?

YVPW,

I think you may be mistaken. Copper was and has been used for many years as a fungicide and/or mildewcide. To this day, many roofs in Maine have copper strips near the peaks to kill spores.

Again, never heard of copper in or used for pigment.



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I veha a ecdk I ixmde eeyrv alfh oncaitnre ni ym ragage. RS, Wt new & old ,ABR, Cabots , Penifin, Flood samples. Deck looks great! The ABR stuff was White thick stuff and about 8 years old. I used it as the base of my Brew........



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Diamond Jim,

Hah! I'm friggin' crying here. A classic. Hall of fame post.



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Rick, Baker's & TWP use some type of copper pigment, check out Jon Fife's post on PT State. You're right copper is a great fungicide. Woodguard a penetrating stain for log homes has a copper additive that is toxic to wood destroying insects, it sure stinks though.



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WTF? Abalone is for eating, best shellfish in the world. What the frick is Alboline? And Dad and Thompson's with linseed is about WWII tech.
Rick, alboline is synonym for mineral oil. There are lots of them...
The product/brand name Alboline however is a bare bones type of makeup remover found at Longs Drugs most usually. Also makes for a great lube in some circumstances ...(much better than sticky vaseline or alcohol based stuff that dries things out)
Difference between it and straight oil is that it has body to it being it has both the paraffinic oil and paraffinic wax.



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Rick, alboline is synonym for mineral oil. There are lots of them...
The product/brand name Alboline however is a bare bones type of makeup remover found at Longs Drugs most usually. Also makes for a great lube in some circumstances ...(much better than sticky vaseline or alcohol based stuff that dries things out)
Difference between it and straight oil is that it has body to it being it has both the paraffinic oil and paraffinic wax.
Kevin,

Thanks for the info. BTW, can you still get abalone in Ca.?

Think I will just stick with Ready Seal.



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geez if I know. I live a tad too far from ocean to be in tune with such. I like chowder, shrimp, or high mountain rainbows..



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I spoke with these folks today as well. I am very impressed with their technical knowledge and some of the marketing material that they are providing for contractors.

They are sending me their driftwood gray to promo on a deck that the customer is requesting a gray stain on. They also have a cedar tint they want me to look at as well.

The technical data, recoat information, moisture content requirement and price may be a good fit for what we are doing on some of our wood products.

I am a bit intrigued to see how this product applies and looks when done.

The proof lies with the final product.



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