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Stripped twice is this deck ready for stain? - Jun 18th, 08, 03:22 PM







This is the deck before any stripping, customer just really wanted the floor and upper spindles but not the lower deck re-done since the lower part has a ton of stain on it not showing any were what so ever..



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Another question I had was underneath the deck there is a small area of green mold is there any way to remove that w/o stripping the stain in that one area and re-painting?



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Since I cannot delete my post, just disregard. I went back and re-read and realize you said "paint" not stain.
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Since I cannot delete my post, just disregard. I went back and re-read and realize you said "paint" not stain.
.... so disregard and I will get more coffee in me.

I said paint but I actually ment stain, just re-edited..



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Ummmmm....no. It's not ready to be stained yet in my opinion.
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I agree with Beth then.
Stronger mix of NAOH and neutralize.
Upsell the underside along with the upper resto and the swing.(even though the customer said "it's ok"). You don't really want a non-uniform flow with the color, so sell the whole deck, not just "some of it".
IMO start over with a stronger mix of NAOH and oxalic. Honestly, it looks untouched in years to me.

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Ummmmm....no. It's not ready to be stained yet in my opinion.
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I should have mentioned the pic's shown are after the first strip, I have yet to go back to see if the 2nd strip really did much after it has dried.. I was told that I really did not need to strip anything since I will be using the exact same behr color code :/ which in that case means I wasted alot of my time and some money..



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I would have to see the pics after the second strip.
The wood doesn't look ready to me at all.
Regardless of it being a recoat, since you applied chems, you have to now deal with the consequences of disturbing the finish ( trust me - you have) and you will have to strip it right before coating or it will look horrible and not last.

Did you neutralize? Looks pretty black....like maybe it needs to be? Did you wash the rails? Or just apply the chems? Were these photos from after all of the steps you performed the first time? Can we see a picture of the deck, dry - as it is now?

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I won't be back out to look at the deck until probably monday, and go from there..



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That deck looks really dark. Stronger stripper and need to neutralize. Still appears very dirty...



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No, I figured the improved appearence from britener would be minimal considering the stripper was having a tough time getting the wood nice and clean to begin with..


Is it ok to mix britener with stripped? Or completely separate application? I ask b/c I only have one pump up spray right now which is full of stripper already



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No you can not mix a striper and a brightener together. It will render your detergent useless and would most likely cause a reaction if the two meet in high concentrations. Stripper first, let it dwell and rinse it off then apply the neutralizer.



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No, I figured the improved appearence from britener would be minimal considering the stripper was having a tough time getting the wood nice and clean to begin with..


Is it ok to mix britener with stripped? Or completely separate application? I ask b/c I only have one pump up spray right now which is full of stripper already
Go buy a second dedicated pump up for your brightener.
You have to neutralize that deck. Keep the chems separate. No shortcuts.

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Did you use a pressure washer to rinse the stripper off? You don't need to blast it but you do need some pressure to move the debris, top layer off after the chems do their work. Like the yellow 15 tip at about 12 or so inches medium pressure. Don't cut the wood just blow the top layer off after its soft. Looks to me like it was washed off with a water hose then dried. And you have to neutralize it and do the brightener. Like Beth said you cant skip anything when using chems process. Go to Pressure tek and order one of his sample packs. It has everything you need. The stripper / neutralizer and brightener and some simple c and gutter grenade for the house. Its like 35 bucks and enough product for that deck and you can up sale a house wash while your there (1.5 hrs) for 150.00 and make up some profit margin for time already spent.



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